Panthers Apparently "love" Luke Kuechly

[panthers55]

Gotcha, because the Ravens drafted an ILB 16 years ago, and the Steelers drafted a Safety that clears it all up....wtf?

I also forgot that Fox was HC/GM of this team....how did I miss that?

BTW, I am not bitching about Rivera here....the stupidity of what I discussed earlier falls directly in Hurney's lap. He has the final call on draft day, not Fox, and not Rivera.

My point: Hurney overvalues the RB and LB position almost to absurdity. And now there is a groundswell out there to take another LB. I would be just as worried if I thought for a minute that Richardson would fall to us. But thank god some other team is dumb enough to grab him before us.

Again you argue but you ignore logic and reality. Do you want to win the argument or appear credible? Right now ytou are losing both.

Your whole point is that Hurney is the problem and made all the mistakes.. If you know what all front offices think and what they believe then you mist know that Hurney is doing what his coaches tell him to do. Fox left and Rivera came here. How many times has Rivera drafted a running back or linebacker in the first?? None. Tell me again how you know what Hurney is going to do??

[thefuzz]

Wins, like overall defensive rankings, depend on several variables. You're reaching for a correlation that is, at best, so weak as to be insignificant. The fact is, the Eagles, Giants, and Panthers are separated by, guess what? 2 wins/year over that span. Eagles 9.9, Giants 8.8, Panthers 7.9. I won't go into every single other variable that affects that whole 2 game difference, but suffice it to say, if you want to believe that the failures of our franchise are due primarily to the fact that we've drafted 2 RBs and 3 LBs in the first round in 5 different years, well...okay then. You may now have a cookie.

A half of a game difference is huge in the NFL, much less 2.

It's not picking them that cripples us, it that we don't pick other positions. DE, OL, QB, and by paying those two positions WAYYYY too much we can't go after positions in FA that are more important to long term success.

[thefuzz]

Again you argue but you ignore logic and reality. Do you want to win the argument or appear credible? Right now ytou are losing both.

Your whole point is that Hurney is the problem and made all the mistakes.. If you know what all front offices think and what they believe then you mist know that Hurney is doing what his coaches tell him to do. Fox left and Rivera came here. How many times has Rivera drafted a running back or linebacker in the first?? None. Tell me again how you know what Hurney is going to do??

Hurney's job is to build a consistent winning football team. He has proven to not be able to do that, and continues to make many of the same bad decisions that he has done in the past.

[panthers55]

Who the fug has said anything about Panthers coaches making draft picks?

Hurney's job, not the coaches.

I thought you knew what all front offices were thinking. Are you telling the GM does the drafting and the coaches don't get who they want. You mean that Belicheck doesn't get who he wants because the GM handles that???

Thanks for that. And here I thought the GM's job was to negotiate contracts and do the contract work while the coaches decide what kind of players they need to win and the scouts decide who is rated where on the board. You should write a book, sounds like you came up with something that defies what everyone else thought was the case.

[cotblock]

Who the fug has said anything about Panthers coaches making draft picks?

Hurney's job, not the coaches.

[panthers55]

A half of a game difference is huge in the NFL, much less 2.

It's not picking them that cripples us, it that we don't pick other positions. DE, OL, QB, and by paying those two positions WAYYYY too much we can't go after positions in FA that are more important to long term success.

Didn't we pick up a franchise QB last year?? How would picking Kuechly stop us from doing that?? As for DE we just paid Johnson 76 million and Hardy has only been here 2 years. What if we had given up on Johnson after 2 years???? And frankly we already have 2 first round tackles, how many should we get?????

[thefuzz]

I thought you knew what all front offices were thinking. Are you telling the GM does the drafting and the coaches don't get who they want. You mean that Belicheck doesn't get who he wants because the GM handles that???

Thanks for that. And here I thought the GM's job was to negotiate contracts and do the contract work while the coaches decide what kind of players they need to win and the scouts decide who is rated where on the board. You should write a book, sounds like you came up with something that defies what everyone else thought was the case.

You have lost your mind.

[panthers55]

cmon now, he knows what the front offices for all the successful franchises are thinking and doing. Apparently their GMs make all the decisions. It is the unsuccessful ones like us where the coaches make the decisions. LOL

[thefuzz]

I wonder who Romeo Crennel will draft this year?

[thefuzz]

Wonder who Norv Turner will draft this year?

[thefuzz]

Wonder who Mike Smith will draft this year?

[thefuzz]

Wonder who Pat Shurmur will draft this year?

[thefuzz]

Wonder who Jason Garrett will draft this year?

[thefuzz]

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Yup...coaches draft and GM's negotiate.

Good stuff 55.

Unreal.