Panthers Apparently "love" Luke Kuechly

[Donald LaFell]

can he play weakside like derrick brooks or thomas davis?!?!?!

[koolkatluke]

We also used Dan Morgan. Your point??

Point is Gary Guyton is still out there.

Rocky Mac is out there

Omar Gaither is still out there.

NO DT or DE are out there.

[panthers55]

Point is Gary Guyton is still out there.

Rocky Mac is out there

Omar Gaither is still out there.

NO DT or DE are out there.

We tried Gaither last year and he was too old and got hurt, Gary Guyton is depth nothing more and wouldn't be an upgrade. The last ranked Patriot defense didn't want to resign him so why should we. Most folks have McIntosh pegged as a Will backer and we have Anderson there already. We need a Sam and he might not be a great fit.

We don't need any DTs and DEs really. If there is an exceptional guy in the draft at number 9 we probably will pick them up. Otherwise there is no compelling reason to pick one up in free agency. Not at what they cost for a good one.

[CRA]

Historically we have not gotten any kind of longevity in drafting first round linebackers like we have at other positions on defense such as CB and DE. the fact that people think we're back at square one even after using a disproportionate amount of resources at the linebacker position is very telling.

Davis may never be a starter again. It may take years for Beason to get back to play at a level he once was. This does not mean you spend your highest pick on the biggest most bestest linebacker you can find once again. This doesn't justify continuing to ignore positions that have hindered us for years.

So Claiborne or Coples or best DT on the board

Silly also to not draft a guy bc others have gotten hurt who play the position. Doesn't mean to let LB become the new DT spot in terms of neglect

[CRA]

can he play weakside like derrick brooks or thomas davis?!?!?!

Thomas David any play weak side like Thomas Davis. Also, both is those excelled as WLB in a cover 2....which we won't run allegedly

[panthers55]

Silly also to not draft a guy bc others have gotten hurt who play the position. Doesn't mean to let LB become the new DT spot in terms of neglect

Exactly if we use that logic then we won't draft an offensive tackle since Otah has not played in 2 years. You would think folks would have figured out that the linebackers were the single biggest reason we sucked last year. Much more so than the safeties and the D line.

[CRA]

Exactly if we use that logic then we won't draft an offensive tackle since Otah has not played in 2 years. You would think folks would have figured out that the linebackers were the single biggest reason we sucked last year. Much more so than the safeties and the D line.

LB play was pathetic last year. Made Godfrey suck worse bc he was asked to help the LBs do there job. Rarely saw our D scheme even in use.

If you have 2 great DEs you can get by with average DTs if you are strong behind them. Few teams want to pound the ball. We weren't abused just bc we had weak DTs.

[koolkatluke]

We tried Gaither last year and he was too old and got hurt, Gary Guyton is depth nothing more and wouldn't be an upgrade. The last ranked Patriot defense didn't want to resign him so why should we. Most folks have McIntosh pegged as a Will backer and we have Anderson there already. We need a Sam and he might not be a great fit.

We don't need any DTs and DEs really. If there is an exceptional guy in the draft at number 9 we probably will pick them up. Otherwise there is no compelling reason to pick one up in free agency. Not at what they cost for a good one.

Gaither is 28 so wrong!!!

Guyton still has talent and would be a nice pick up.

And rocky Mac can play both will and sam so can James Anderson.

Dude don't shoot the messager because there are solid LB in FA.

[panthers55]

LB play was pathetic last year. Made Godfrey suck worse bc he can't play the run.

Made both Godfrey and Martin overcommit to stopping the run which hurt their ability to play the pass. Not that either is all that great at it anyway.

[panthers55]

Gaither is 28 so wrong!!!

Guyton still has talent and would be a nice pick up.

And rocky Mac can play both will and sam so can James Anderson.

Dude don't shoot the messager because there are solid LB in FA.

So you ignored that Gaither was a Panther last year and we didn't resign him and he was not very good.

And you ignored that Guyton played on the worse defense in the NFL and they didn't retain him because they wanted an upgrade but we should take him?

McIntosh is the only one that I would consider of the three. If we don't pick up anyone in the draft better and he were willing to sign a 1 year deal to see what he could do, he might be a good pick up. I heard that he had a workout with Miami two days ago.

[CRA]

Made both Godfrey and Martin overcommit to stopping the run which hurt their ability to play the pass. Not that either is all that great at it anyway.

I agree.

[koolkatluke]

So you ignored that Gaither was a Panther last year and we didn't resign him and he was not very good.

And you ignored that Guyton played on the worse defense in the NFL and they didn't retain him because they wanted an upgrade but we should take him?

McIntosh is the only one that I would consider of the three. If we don't pick up anyone in the draft better and he were willing to sign a 1 year deal to see what he could do, he might be a good pick up. I heard that he had a workout with Miami two days ago.

1. We haven't resigned him yet. The FA season hasn't ended yet right? He could still be brought back. Not to mention he was hurt alot of the season.

2. Cj played on the 28th worst defense in the league does that mean he sucks? FA isn't over this whole stupid poo your on about him not being signed "YET" doesn't work. He could still signed back with the Pats. Lofton and Hawthorn weren't signed in the 1st week of FA either.

3. Well good my point was if we needed LB after the draft we can get them. But DT, DE, and CB are getting very thin to slim and none.

[frash.exe]

once we IRed McClain and Fua and replaced them, our run defense got suddenly better. If we only had better linebackers, we would have been much better across the board.

lol no it really did not. The texans still gashed us through the ground and the saints somehow found time to get 200+ rushing yards while they were passing all over us for north of 400

[panthers55]

lol no it really did not. The texans still gashed us through the ground and the saints somehow found time to get 200+ rushing yards while they were passing all over us for north of 400

Again anecdotal evidence is not worth anything. Go back and look at the facts. That is yards per carry. In the first 4 games we gave up 554 yards on 90 carries (didn't include quarterback numbers) for a yards per carry of 6.15. In the last 4 games with McClain And Fua on IR we gave up 472 yards on 91 carries for a yards per carry of 5.17 which is a yard per carry better.

You should know by now when I say something like that I have already done the research.