Panthers Apparently "love" Luke Kuechly

[XClown1986]

They do have Pheia and the kid from the Texans Okeyba what ever. But they also didn't make the playoffs. So pick a better team.

They didn't make the playoffs because of Cutler going down, being in the same division as Green Bay and Detroit, and having a weak secondary. Not their DTs.

I assume you mean Stephen Paea out of Oregon St who was a rookie last year and played sparingly. Also Amobi Okoye who rotated, but didn't start, had a good year but he also was not retained.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Well we don't know that I've only see Hogan in 2 games and not much in those 2 games.

Again you are Fawning over somebody saying he was a 1st round talent. He still drop to the 4th round. I could see dropping to the 2nd or 3rd but he must of really F'up to be a 1st round talent dropping to the 4th round. Or maybe some teams didn't see him with 1st round talent.

I didn't even see him as a first round talent, to me he was a second round talent to begin with. However, I also feel like I know more about Hogan considering my cousin plays cornerback for WVU and was able to tell me a lot about Hogan.

[XClown1986]

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[rodeo]

And OLB in a Rivera defense who cannot rush the passer doesn't sound that appealing to me.

[panthers55]

And OLB in a Rivera defense who cannot rush the passer doesn't sound that appealing to me.

Then lets dump Anderson and Davis right off the bat since neither of them have ever had 4 sacks in a season.

[koolkatluke]

Wrong again. Boley is not sorry. He had 93 tackles in only 13 starts. Williams had 78 tackles in 2 starts and 16 games of rotational work. Kiwanuka who is a LB/DE also had 84 tackles and 3.5 sacks. The rest of the guys like Greg Jones started 5 games and played in 16 games while others filled in. They had some injuries like we did during the season and struggled somewhat. They limped into the playoffs at 9-7. Then in the playoffs things got much better and the defense gelled.

But they were not sorry and they used their DEs and LBs somewhat interchangeably.

They won because of that Dline Spin it how you want. They were trying LB out all year but got better when Osi came back.

[koolkatluke]

Not the type of impact that he was supposed to have made.

Everyone was proclaiming him the next Ndamukong Suh.

Yeah 43 tackles and 5.5 sacks but you're right he didn't have much of a impact.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Yeah 43 tackles and 5.5 sacks but you're right he didn't have much of a impact.

Compare that to Suh and come back and talk to me. If you are going to get drafted in the top five, you better be a game changer.

Keep trying.

[koolkatluke]

Comparing what they did in games. Watch some highlights or old games and you tell me the difference. It's obvious.

I told you to come with facts maybe some # and you caome back with watch a highlight flim. How about you gets some numbers and come back or don't make the statement.

[koolkatluke]

Compare that to Suh and come back and talk to me. If you are going to get drafted in the top five, you better be a game changer.

Keep trying.

43 tackles and 5.5 sacks is major impact for a DT ?? Learn football before talking.

[Mage]

Lol, is the expectations for all rookie DTs to play at now what Suh, a once in a decade prospect, accomplished?

[koolkatluke]

Lol, is the expectations for all rookie DTs to play at now what Suh, a once in a decade prospect, accomplished?

I'm trying to figure out How 43 tackles and 5.5 sacks for a DT is chop liver.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

43 tackles and 5.5 sacks is major impact for a DT ?? Learn football before talking.

Hahaha you make me laugh. "Learn football?" You are consistently getting called out for your lack of knowledge and intelligence towards this game called football. Since you like stats so much, let's take a close look.

1. Dareus wasn't even in the top 60 for sacks.

2. Dareus ranked 265th with 43 tackles.

3. Buffalo had the 5th worse rushing defense in the NFL allowing nearly 140 yards on the ground per game.

4. Buffalo only recorded 29 sacks in the NFL this past year which got them tied for sixth worst in the NFL.

It doesn't seem like Dareus had that great of an impact on the defensive side of the ball to me.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Lol, is the expectations for all rookie DTs to play at now what Suh, a once in a decade prospect, accomplished?

When you get drafted that high, yes.

Since 2002, only three defensive tackles have been taken with a top 3 pick and they are Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, and Marcel Dareus.

Suh exceeded expectations and Dareus was slightly below expectations and McCoy looks like a bust.

So yes, when you draft a defensive tackle that high; they better be an Ndamukong Suh type of player. Especially when players like A.J. Green and Patrick Peterson are still on the board.