Wide Receiver

[Floppin]

The "couldn't beat out Naanee" argument is not really a solid argument. You need to go back and research quotes from Rivera and Hurney about exactly why Legs was brought in and why he was starting and seeing a lot of the field.

I'll save you a little time and let you in on the basics. It had ever little, if any, to do with his actual skill and ability as a receiver and everything to do with familiarity with the offense. It was stated on more than one occasion that Legs was helping, not only Cam, but everyone in the huddle and at the line to make sure everyone knew the play being run and that they were properly placed, etc.

[Ken]

If our defense didn't suck balls I think WR would be a higher priority on our lists of needs. So as a result we have to see how Lafell/Gettis/Pilares develop.

If we manage to improve our defense this year, I do envision us taking a WR with the 1st pick next year.

I think we draft a WR this draft but more for PR/KR.

On Braylon, I would be happy if he came for a 1 yr minimum high incentive contract.

[ClarkCam]

I didn't realize so many people were that high on Lafell.... When I saw him in the game, he did not get that many targets. There were multiple games that Naanee and Lafell both had around equal time (they split near the end of the season, Lafell never passed Naanee. Lafell started in front of Naanee the last few games due to injury), and Naanee continued to get more targets. I just don't think Lafell gets the separation that an elite WR needs. I see him do most of his damage in zone coverage (sometimes in man when shear size takes over). The reason I like Braylon as a cheap option for this upcoming season, is because Braylon can get more separation, and if Lafell does end up performing better than Braylon, great. I'm rooting for him. Then you can sit Braylon because we didn't pay him much to begin with. Hopefully you are guys are right on Lafell's potential. I just didn't see it. He had less receptions this season than with Clausen.

[carolina-chuck]

I say NO to Quick. There's no way we draft another player from APP, and I'm a huge fan of APP.

I think there's a possibility for Wright but we have huge needs on Defense.

Best chance is signing Braylon when we clear Wharton's cap in June I think. Braylon had his best season with Chud so there's some connection there.

[Keep Pounding]

I don't know about that.. Edwards wasn't on the field much last year. You can't really compare them.

from 08-2010 Edwards has like a 14% drop rate, I think we ranked in the low 40's, should have clarified my point a little more...

Lafell had a bad 2010 drop rate around 11% and this past year under 6%, so I would say he has improved on his second year, and Edwards has had 14% between 08-10, he didn't really play in 2011....

[Floppin]

I will say that whoever does end up picking up Quick is going to get themselves a really quality player.

[Mr.Ponche]

Naanee was garbage,no doubt but,for some reason,Rivera liked him. Whenever Lafell was in he produced solid numbers and gained valuable experience. Saw no reason what so ever to question Lafell's hands. Edwards,at the right price and mind-set, would give us the receiving corps needed for a legit play-off run. Draft exclusively defense,which kept us from getting there last season.

[Ivan The Awesome]

from 08-2010 Edwards has like a 14% drop rate, I think we ranked in the low 40's, should have clarified my point a little more...

Lafell had a bad 2010 drop rate around 11% and this past year under 6%, so I would say he has improved on his second year, and Edwards has had 14% between 08-10, he didn't really play in 2011....

You know what Smiths was? 17% percent. Doesn't mean he's a bad wide out...

[Keep Pounding]

You know what Smiths was? 17% percent. Doesn't mean he's a bad wide out...

Yeah I agree, but I just think bringing in vets will limit the progression of our young talent when it comes to the WR position, especially when we have some many holes on DEF, the GM has to use the remaining money wisely, IMO and bringing in a VET WR, I feel goes against that philosophy.

[Ivan The Awesome]

Yeah I agree, but I just think bringing in vets will limit the progression of our young talent when it comes to the WR position, especially when we have some many holes on DEF, the GM has to use the remaining money wisely, IMO and bringing in a VET WR, I feel goes against that philosophy.

I can get a handle on your view on this subject and agree to an extent. It still wouldn't hurt taking a look at Edwards, especially if he comes for cheap. He's honestly the only wide out I'd want to consider in the FA market right now, just because he has familiarity with the system that Chudz has implemented.

[Chesapeake Fan]

I mentioned Blackmon yesterday for this same topic's reasons, for our wideouts are either developing or aging.

A veteran player like Edwards could relieve Smitty but it has not been done since Moose. It seems you need to have someone just as passionate as Smitty, or it does not work. Not selfish but crazy to get along on the field. TE Shockey has passion and it worked. Keyshawn was selfish and it failed bad.

Perhaps Chad Johnson? he has personal history and has passion. He would get along with Smitty and help Cam.

If we pick up a wide receiver in the draft, he needs to be very comfortable in his abilities. Hence, a high pick rather a late one in the draft.

Jarrett, Colbert, dude from OSU that the raiders picked up a few years back all were later picks that did not work opposite Smitty.

[PantherPhann89]

Don't get me wrong, he definitely showed flashes... But for example, in Houston, he was targeted a multitude of times and failed to come up with a single catch. And if you can't get ahead of Naanee except when he gets injured, I'm not impressed.

I don't see a great need for us to get a WR this yeaar, unless he's a return man. We have other areas that are more important that needs to be addressed first.

[sml1950]

You may not have noticed, but we already added a receiver that had more receptions than Naanee/ LaFell last year. His name is Mike Tolbert and in the Turner/Chud system he will be more than just an outlet. We'll pound the ball with our three headed attack, throwing to the backs as part of moving the chains. Gettis/Smith will take the top off the defense daring them to put 8 in the box. Cam will hit them with a variety of 20+ yd passes on the outside. If the defense tries to take this away, Olsen/Barnidge will beat them down the middle.

Rivera is making a concerted effort to upgrade the special teams and adding a KO/P returner is more valuable IMO. If he happens to be a WR, so be it.

[Argus Plexus]

Fail, LaFell started over Legetron at the end of the season and he went hard in the clutch. We have no third this year.