Sorenson Wants Wr, Blackmon

[Riverboat Ron]

Only want a WR that is 6'6"+, runs a 4.2, 15 inch hands, 60+ reps, 50 on the wonderlic, turns water to wine and finally...a 30' vertical jump. ;)

[CRA]

Reason why Lafell can be #1 wr.

1. Great Hands

2. He has improve his route running

3. 6'2 great size

4. Fight for the ball in the air (example GB catch on the side lines over 2 defenders)

5. Good Blocker on run plays.

6. Has some good wiggle and elusivness in the open field.

7. Great hands.

Now do you disagree with any of this? And where are your reason he can't be?

You listed great hands twice. He showed improvement....his football career has shown those great hands come and go. At this stage, you can't define him as having great hands.

Also 4, he isn't consistant there enough either yet to get that tag.

I love LaFell.... He made good strides last year with his opportunity.

[carolina-chuck]

Colston and Henderson really. I love Graham But we match up well with their other weapons.

I'll give you the Pack.

Detriot really only has Megatron.

I'll take #89, Lafell, Gettis, Olson over dertriot's crew.

You must be crazy or on drug saying you wouldn't take the lions crew.

I'd take Calvin right now over Smitty and pettigrew over Olsen.

Cam would easily be throwing 30 tds and 5000 yards with those two.

[carolina-chuck]

Got to take Blackmon if he falls. We need D but he's BPA.

Unless trade down with someone in need of him.

Pair him up with Cam and we got our tandem for the future. And we won't be drafting a WR in the first or second for a very long time.

[CRA]

Cra that last part was stupid. "Some people are drafted to be #1 WR Down the road"

Really so if you don't draft a WR in the 1st he can never be a #1 wr?

What was Steve Smith (3rd round) drafted for?

Dude your better then this. Come up with a better argument please.

There are exceptions to everything....Steve Smith is an example and since we are proud of owners of one it forced fans to routinely think someone like Pilares just needs time and he could be that guy for us.

We have the QB.....we should go out and attempt to draft him a stud. Pretty simple. If you were to compile a list of the best WRs in the game.....what round where most drafted in? About playing the odds. Thinking we are going to luck into another Smitty IMO isn't the right approach.

[CPF4LIFE]

There wont be another Steve Smith for a LONG TIME. He is nowhere near that replaceable. When we do finally decide to get a new number 1 it has got to be a first round talent. Nothing less.

[top dawg]

We had key injuries last year. If we can get a healthy Davis, Beason & Edwards, that would make a big difference. Add a healthy and competent Hogan, and that's an even bigger difference. Even after all that, we still would have round two and on to make a difference. People seem to forget how banged up we were last year. Beason all by himself can be a game changer, and IF Davis can play at his previously high level, he can make things happen as well.

So Hogan (who has done nothing) gets the nod from you but Lafell and Gettis can never be #1 wr? Really.? Then your counting on Davis Edwards and Beason not having a drop off or getting injured again. But Gettis doesn't get the same consideration?

Did I say that? Gettis and/or LaFell could blossom into flowers, or "bust" into back-ups. Who knows what any of they can be? But, this season will tell the story. Looking at just sheer potential, I don't think there is any way Hogan will bust. I believe he has starting potential as he is a handful. Dude laid the wood in college, and is good in coverage and the run, and can be a QBs worst nightmare coming around the edge. Even to this day, notwithstanding the fact that LaFell and Gettis have gotten starting time, there is an argument that Hogan is less of a mystery than either one of them at their respective positions. There is also a real argument that Blackmon is less of a mystery at WR, than either Gettis or LaFell. But I don't see it as being a slight to them. It's just the reality. Moreover, I could also argue that there is no appreciable difference beweeen Hogan and Claiborne when it comes to potential (Yeah, I'm just full of arguments), and that on the mystery scale, they are both in the same boat.

My post was really about how more than a few people just gloss over the fact that our defense was crippled big time last year, and that if our horses had been healty we wouldn't have looked as bad as we were.

BTW, If either Claiborne or Blackmon is on the table, we have to pick 'em IMO. This would be the dream scenario.

[chef17]

Did I say that? Gettis and/or LaFell could blossom into flowers, or "bust" into back-ups. Who knows what any of they can be? But, this season will tell the story. Looking at just sheer potential, I don't think there is any way Hogan will bust. I believe he has starting potential as he is a handful. Dude laid the wood in college, and is good in coverage and the run, and can be a QBs worst nightmare coming around the edge. Even to this day, notwithstanding the fact that LaFell and Gettis have gotten starting time, there is an argument that Hogan is less of a mystery than either one of them at their respective positions. There is also a real argument that Blackmon is less of a mystery at WR, than either Gettis or LaFell. But I don't see it as being a slight to them. It's just the reality. Moreover, I could also argue that there is no appreciable difference beweeen Hogan and Claiborne when it comes to potential (Yeah, I'm just full of arguments), and that on the mystery scale, they are both in the same boat.

My post was really about how more than a few people just gloss over the fact that our defense was crippled big time last year, and that if our horses had been healty we wouldn't have looked as bad as we were.

BTW, If either Claiborne or Blackmon is on the table, we have to pick 'em IMO. This would be the dream scenario.

What exactly is the argument that a CB who played in 3 games is less of a mystery than a WR who played for two years?

[cotblock]

What exactly is the argument that a CB who played in 3 games is less of a mystery than a WR who played for two years?

I'm a Hogan fan and I gotta admit, that is one heck of a good question. Seriously, :blink:

[top dawg]

What exactly is the argument that a CB who played in 3 games is less of a mystery than a WR who played for two years?

Roll the footage, baby!

Look! I like Gettis and Lafell (esp. LaFell's work last season). But, neither one of them---even after two years---puts fear into the opposition just yet. Hogan's injury and off-field issues are the ONLY reason he fell to the 4th. If his knee holds up, which it has so far, Hogan has starting potential and perhaps even game-changing potential, and it won't take two years for any one to figure this out.

[chef17]

Roll the footage, baby!

Look! I like Gettis and Lafell (esp. LaFell's work last season). But, neither one of them---even after two years---puts fear into the opposition just yet. Hogan's injury and off-field issues are the ONLY reason he fell to the 4th. If his knee holds up, which it has so far, Hogan has starting potential and perhaps even game-chaning potential, and it won't take two years for any one to figure this out.

Key parts being "if his knee holds up" and "potential". That makes him a huge mystery.

[top dawg]

Key parts being "if his knee holds up" and "potential". That makes him a huge mystery.

Yeah...but is he big enough of a mystery to pass up Blackmon in the draft, even if Claiborne is still on the table? Is he big enough of a mystery to not try and move up to get Blackmon like Sorensen suggested?

It's all just talk and opinion fellas. Whatever we choose to do, I am not gonna scream "Bloody murder!" The coaches know better than we do.

[chef17]

None of that explains how Hogan is less of a mystery than Lafell which was my question.

[top dawg]

None of that explains how Hogan is less of a mystery than Lafell which was my question.

Even after two years, NFL pundits and experts are talking down about our WR corps. (minus Smitty). Even some people on the Huddle still refer to LaFell as LaFail. LaFell has had TWO years to not only quell this talk, but cement himself as the number two guy, or even the heir apparent number one. He even gave way to None, err Naane, for the Lion's share of the season. That doesn't exactly ring of endorsements. Hogan has been convalescing his restructured knee and hasn't played in a whole football game, but to this day there are still more than a few experts, writers, coaches and fans who believe and/or "Know" that Hogan is an NFL caliber-starting CB. Even if I give LaFell the nod and say that he is less of a question at WR than Hogan is at CB, the fact that LaFell is still a question at all should tell you something.