Who Would Improve Our Pass Rush The Most?

[KillerKat]

I don't have the love for Hardy that many of you guys do. I have heard about his potential and upside for as long as he has been with the team but he is a liability against the run and his pass rush hasn't been that great either.

At what point do we just say he is average at best?

lol yea a whole 2 years is sooo longggg. How many more years before we realise he is just average after already being in the league for so long!

[carolina-chuck]

Def. Coples! Coples or Cox.

Poe was hyped during the combine and lasted for a few weeks but I think it has chilled down since then. Like Poe but don't love him. I'm not convince that Poe is the best or even a top two DT in this draft.

If we were playing 34 D, Ingram but I don't see him here in a 43.

[rodeo]

Coples is a better pass rusher but that will mean nothing when our DTs are pushed backwards and QBs can just step up into the pocket and avoid our DEs.

[CRA]

Coples is a better pass rusher but that will mean nothing when our DTs are pushed backwards and QBs can just step up into the pocket and avoid our DEs.

Well Rivera didn't run his scheme last year....LBs will be more involved this year. Blockers will have to account for them more going forward....which will change things.

[Delhommey]

Why is absolutely no one talking about Upshaw?

[rippadonn]

Why is absolutely no one talking about Upshaw?

You may have answered your own question

[rippadonn]

Ingram

Too short, flashbacks of Everette Brown.

[rippadonn]

I'd take any top ten type of player on the D Line. We need at least one first rounder on that line. It's pathetic.

[rippadonn]

Coples wev'e already got a 6' 5" 345 lb beast at DT. His name is Jason Shirley,

Huh? :lol:

Never heard of him!

I'd take Coples though. Shirley is an unknown known.

[megadeth078]

I don't have the love for Hardy that many of you guys do. I have heard about his potential and upside for as long as he has been with the team but he is a liability against the run and his pass rush hasn't been that great either.

At what point do we just say he is average at best??

Poe taking up an extra blocker would help more in my opinion between him and Coples. I am not convinced Cople will be an elite pass rusher. Good for 6-8 sacks a year. Good, but not elite.

I bet if we was an early round pick, you'd give him the benefit of the doubt. It's only been two years.

draft-status discrimination is rampant on these boards.

[rippadonn]

I bet if we was an early round pick, you'd give him the benefit of the doubt. It's only been two years.

draft-status discrimination is rampant on these boards.

If these undrafted guys and journeymen and underachieving 3rd rounders you speak of were that good nobody in the nation would say that the Panthers need a DT. You need elite talent to compete against other elite talent. You try to race your bug in the Grand Prix you know whats coming unless you've got #53 on your door. We all love underdogs but come on!

[megadeth078]

If these undrafted guys and journeymen and underachieving 3rd rounders you speak of were that good nobody in the nation would say that the Panthers need a DT. You need elite talent to compete against other elite talent. You try to race your bug in the Grand Prix you know whats coming unless you've got #53 on your door. We all love underdogs but come on!

DTs don't develop completely in one season.

If one of our underacheiving 3rd round DTs was a first round pick you'd say "he just needs more time."

[rippadonn]

DTs don't develop completely in one season.

If one of our underacheiving 3rd round DTs was a first round pick you'd say "he just needs more time."

These guys didn't even show "flashes" and were undersized to begin with, I'd keep adding to the talent I wouldn't stop at McClain and Fua

[Snake]

Dre Kirkpatrick because if your CB2 cant cover worth a poo it does not matter who you have on the line.

Now if we are talking strictly Dline here then I would take Brockers over anyone else. Dude is a freak and if he can put it all together will be hard to block.