The Best/worst Of Marty Hurney

[KendrickPanther]

To be fair most of Panther nation was excited about Dwayne Jarret, just as many were for Jimmy Clausen. Of course none of us have Hurney's contract or worry free job.

[SnarkAttack]

Dwayne Jarret wasn't a bad pick at all. He was great in college and was considered one of the top three WRs in his class. Would've been snatched up if we didn't draft him. Not predicting the future doesn't make you a bad GM.

Um, what? That's the entire challenge for talent evaluators - deciphering which 'great' college players have attributes that will carry over to the NFL. Jarret was a 2nd round pick who didn't produce in the NFL = bad pick. Just becaue he would've been "snatched up" (and who knows if he would have?) doesn't mean he's a good pick. By your logic, JaMarcus Russel, Ryan Leaf, Charles Rogers and Akili Smith weren't bad picks because they were great in college.

[thunderraiden]

Paying Delhomme all that money. Trading for Armanti and Brown. Not working out a way to keep Peppers. Picking Clausen. Horrible.

Trading back getting Kalil and Beason. Drafting Cam. Trading for Olsen. Hitting the mark on all his 1st round picks. Not bad man. Finding those Diamonds in the rough. Kuddos.

Clausen was a first round evaluated talent that we only spent a late 2nd rounder on to find out he was a bust. That is 10 times better than wasting a first round pick on a QB to find out he is a bust....

[rodeo]

Um, what? That's the entire challenge for talent evaluators - deciphering which 'great' college players have attributes that will carry over to the NFL. Jarret was a 2nd round pick who didn't produce in the NFL = bad pick. Just becaue he would've been "snatched up" (and who knows if he would have?) doesn't mean he's a good pick. By your logic, JaMarcus Russel, Ryan Leaf, Charles Rogers and Akili Smith weren't bad picks because they were great in college.

They really weren't bad picks. They all, by consensus, should've gone where they did. Even the best GMs in the world would've taken that risk because the reward was great.

Cam could have easily sucked and we'd be talking right now about what a bad pick he was. But the pick itself doesn't change, the onus is on the player to make it good or bad, not the GM.

Bad picks are ones like Armanti where it's clear that nobody in their right mind should have used that pick on that player.

[Hotsauce]

"Mittens"

[Kurb]

My biggest complains are: Lack of development in second round picks, overvalue of drafted players, constant lack of money to add starter level FA's. Hurney is solid, but not exceptional. I would love to find the next Ozzie Newsome or some sort.

His success in the first round, finding mid-lower tier FA's to fill gaps, and later round players that can start offset many of my complaints.

Overall I would put him in around 10-20 of NFL GMs. Likely around 15-20 more than 10-15

[bigdog10]

Best: Drafting: Beason, Williams, Cam, Signing Jake Delhomme initially

Worst: Signing Jake Delhomme after 08. Trading for Everette Brown, Trading for Armanti Edwards. Justin Hartwig signing. Letting Peppers walk.

[realstandman]

He's ok at drafting..

terrible FA moves. aside from Stephen Davis. I can't remember one good FA move

Greg Olsen?

[jarhead]

I guess anyone can make a bad pick but to give up future draft picks to make a bad pick is inexcusable as in the case of EBrown ans AEdwards..As another poster pointed out many of the decisions to overpay certain players may be JR decisions but clearly our team is not as balanced as it should be and we do not have the money to fix it.

I think the DWill contract pretty much killed us for the chance to sign J Stewart. To me its pretty amazing that teams like the Steelers can field a playoff team year after year.

[KendrickPanther]

Greg Olsen?

Was a trade. Had Hurney gotten into a bidding war for an unrestricted free agent who knows what we would be saying about Olsen.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

oh my poo why are people still listing "letting peppers walk" as a blunder by hurney.

sometimes a poo situation is just a poo situation. there is literally nothing in the world we could have done to either get compensation via trade or sign him back. he wasn't going to sign here no matter what and he utterly destroyed any leverage the panthers had for a trade with a number of moves. remember when he said that he wanted to play like outside LB in a 3-4 defense? we saw one of the premier players of the 2000s at the biggest money position in a 4-3 defense decree to the entire world that he wanted to play a position that he had never spent any real time at as a pro in a completely different system. then he revealed that he had a mysterious list of like four teams he would play for. then he didn't sign his tender until june of 2009, meaning that teams couldn't even contact us to negotiate a trade until well after the prime period for big splash trades/signings and the draft was over. there wasn't a damn thing we could do in that situation.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

Drafting Cam, when everybody was beating down his door to say what a stupid idea it was, is enough for me. He got the quarterback right. People heap praise on the Patriots all the time, but they draft pretty badly, let good players walk, and make bad trades/FA pick ups all the time. They just got the quarterback right and that's enough to overcome everything else.

[LaChance87]

I dont understand why you go out and get Tolbert, when we already have Stewart and Williams at RB. If we are that hard pressed against the salary cap why would you get another running back and not address the holes on defense. Personally I do not like the move.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

My biggest complains are: Lack of development in second round picks, overvalue of drafted players, constant lack of money to add starter level FA's. Hurney is solid, but not exceptional. I would love to find the next Ozzie Newsome or some sort.

His success in the first round, finding mid-lower tier FA's to fill gaps, and later round players that can start offset many of my complaints.

Overall I would put him in around 10-20 of NFL GMs. Likely around 15-20 more than 10-15

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Eric_DeCosta

and i agree with the rest of what you said and 15-20 is about right. he's not one of the elites by any means but he's definitely not horrible either. middle of the road and the record under him reflects that