Panthers Are Listening To Offer For J-Stew

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If we do trade J-Stew, we could always pick him up in 2013 if the team doesn't franchise him. Just saying, get a draft pick and get our boy back. We would have to let him know whats up before he left.

I doubt we could pull that off, but who knows, then we get an extra draft pick and Stew gets to come back.

Generally, the team trading the draft pick to us for Stew will only do it if they can come to an agreement with him on a new contract.

[vorbis]

if stewart leaves, the panthers will not get less than a 3rd round comp pick, assuming that the rules about those are the same as they have been . stewart will only leave in FA if he gets a monster offer. a team giving him a monster deal is going to feature him as a 3-down back to get their money's worth. mucho playing time + high dollar free agent contract = the highest compensation pick allowable under the rules.

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Generally, the team trading the draft pick to us for Stew will only do it if they can come to an agreement with him on a new contract.

So he wouldn't play this year under his rookie deal in this scenario. He'd have a new deal right off the bat? One of the attractive parts of acquiring him is his affordable contract, but the downside of that is the reality of renting him for one year.

I'm not going to read anything into him refusing to negotiate early. Obviously he'd be losing leverage or money by doing that. I think that could back-fire on him if traded, but hey, who knows? Best case this year is for him to complete his rookie contract and continue to be elite level in his production despite the limited carries.

[PantherPhann89]

I don't think that we will have to trade Stew. We just signed a FB that can play RB and he's getting FB money. Tolberts contract won't/doesn't affect Stews contract. D Will contract may, he may have to renegoiate his contract for us to keep Stew and we will need to extend Smith to give us more cap space.

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I'm still taking the statement from management that they aren't actively pursuing a trade involving JStew at face value. If they aren't shopping him, any deal will have to be epic. I don't see that happening.

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I'm still taking the statement from management that they aren't actively pursuing a trade involving JStew at face value. If they aren't shopping him, any deal will have to be epic. I don't see that happening.

It would be dumb for any GM to come out and say, "we want to trade Stew". It would only drive the price down. You let them come to you, thus the parsing of words from Hurney

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It would be dumb for any GM to come out and say, "we want to trade Stew". It would only drive the price down. You let them come to you, thus the parsing of words from Hurney

Indicating that you are open to dealing JStew doesn't drive his value down...how would that change anything? More suitors, more offers? I don't get it...I guess you are saying that since Hurney didn't say "we want to trade JStew", that means we do want to and all the other GM's will be tricked into offering too much.

I still think he's valued more here than any offer teams might give. I guess we'll see. Nothing here but comb-over's statement that "Panthers will "definitely" listen to trade offers for Jonathan Stewart this offseason" despite acknowledging that there aren't any serious talks happening.

[MadHatter]

So he wouldn't play this year under his rookie deal in this scenario. He'd have a new deal right off the bat? One of the attractive parts of acquiring him is his affordable contract, but the downside of that is the reality of renting him for one year.

I'm not going to read anything into him refusing to negotiate early. Obviously he'd be losing leverage or money by doing that. I think that could back-fire on him if traded, but hey, who knows? Best case this year is for him to complete his rookie contract and continue to be elite level in his production despite the limited carries.

Damn, are you totally new to NFL football.

Another team would NOT give up anything of value without having a new long-term deal discussed. There is no way they would give up a pick to have him for one year.

The quality and knowledge of posters on this board is really declining lately.

[Davidson Deac II]

I really like JStew, but he won't get Herchel Walker interest...but we can dream, right?

Yea. :)

I don't think even Adrian Peterson would get Herschel Walker interest today. Running backs aren't as in demand as they were back in the 80's.

[MadHatter]

I don't think that we will have to trade Stew. We just signed a FB that can play RB and he's getting FB money. Tolberts contract won't/doesn't affect Stews contract. D Will contract may, he may have to renegoiate his contract for us to keep Stew and we will need to extend Smith to give us more cap space.

DWill just signed his deal. Doubt he would renegotiate at this point.

Second, if the reports that Stewart was not interested last year in talking extension, people's belief that he loves it here and WANTS to share snaps with DWill may be nothing but Panther homerism. Stew is looking for two things.....(1) to get paid (this will likely be his only BIG contract and (2) a chance to be the primary RB.

He is not likely to get either in Carolina.

For a 2nd rounder...you jump on the trade

For a 3rd rounder....you think hard about it. We are not guaranteed a 3rd comp pick for Stew (he shares snaps with DWill). And, the comp pick would be in teh 2014 draft. A 3rd today is worth a lot more than a 3rd in two years.

[MHS831]

My theory is this==Panthers do not get a pick for Stew (w/ new contract, a must). They use him to move up 5 picks in this year's draft.

Cleveland gets: #9 pick, Stewart with a new deal (now they don't have to take RB at #4) AND West Coast Offense QB Jimmy Clausen.

Panthers get: #4 pick in the draft (Morris Claiborne)

Or we could keep a boat load of players in the offensive backfield while the defense plays scrubs.

[MadHatter]

My theory is this==Panthers do not get a pick for Stew (w/ new contract, a must). They use him to move up 5 picks in this year's draft.

Cleveland gets: #9 pick, Stewart with a new deal (now they don't have to take RB at #4) AND West Coast Offense QB Jimmy Clausen.

Panthers get: #4 pick in the draft (Morris Claiborne)

Or we could keep a boat load of players in the offensive backfield while the defense plays scrubs.

Bad trade for Carolina.

If Cleveland is really interested in Stew, I see their 2nd round pick for him.

They take Blackmon at #4, get their feature back in Stew...and still have their #22 pick.

Give McCoy some weapons.

[PantherPhann89]

DWill just signed his deal. Doubt he would renegotiate at this point.

Second, if the reports that Stewart was not interested last year in talking extension, people's belief that he loves it here and WANTS to share snaps with DWill may be nothing but Panther homerism. Stew is looking for two things.....(1) to get paid (this will likely be his only BIG contract and (2) a chance to be the primary RB.

He is not likely to get either in Carolina.

For a 2nd rounder...you jump on the trade

For a 3rd rounder....you think hard about it. We are not guaranteed a 3rd comp pick for Stew (he shares snaps with DWill). And, the comp pick would be in teh 2014 draft. A 3rd today is worth a lot more than a 3rd in two years.

D Will just signed a huge deal and I think that he will be willing to renegotiate to keep Stew if Stew wants to stay. The reports are just that, reports. But if Stew wants to leave, doesn't want to sign an extension, want more money than we can pay, then yes we should trade him now. But if he wants to stay, we'd have a helluva a RB core.

[MadHatter]

D Will just signed a huge deal and I think that he will be willing to renegotiate to keep Stew if Stew wants to stay. The reports are just that, reports. But if Stew wants to leave, doesn't want to sign an extension, want more money than we can pay, then yes we should trade him now. But if he wants to stay, we'd have a helluva a RB core.

With the new offense in Carolina, having multiple stud RB's in not necessary.

If you expect DWill to renegotiate and us to sign Stew to a huge contract....you will be disappointed.

That would tie up over $15M per season at the RB position....over 10% of your salary cap.

It WILL NOT happen.

Options.....trade stew now or watch him walk at the end of the season.