This Is A Wait And See Draft

[jarhead]

To me there are 6 elite players 5 of which will be gone in the first 6 picks. Luck, RG3, Kalil ,Claborne ,Blackmon with Richardson being the only one that might slip.The 7th pick until the 11th you are either taking a risk on a DE or DT or reaching for a safer pick with a OL or lb.

Obviously to me trading down would be the best option if available. To me Poe and Couples are risk based on game film.So doe we take a risk or reach for a safer pick ?

[mick eye]

I completly disagree on the pick having to be a DE/DT. Or that the safe picks are OL or LB. Honestly, i think Reiff and Kalil are gonna be off the board by our pick. I do think Coples, Poe, DeCastro and Keuchly will be there but i have reservations about all of them. DeCastro is a GUARD. Not exactly high value. Poe is a workout warrior that did not produce at Memphis, Coples reminds me of Peppers with a less consistent motor, and Keuchly like DeCastro is low value at 9. No one is talking about the Corners. Everyone is fixated on Claibourne but Stephen Gilmore and Dre Kirkpatrick are also talented kids. Lots of folks also have talked about how bad our dline was at stopping the run or maintaining a pass rush. I saw it too, but i also saw Gamble exposed several times too. We need to start grooming a top CB. Capt. Butler, and Hogan are not the answer. Point blank. Top of the second we can address DE/DT or OLB. The talent is deep at those positions this year.

[Woodie]

I completly disagree on the pick having to be a DE/DT. Or that the safe picks are OL or LB. Honestly, i think Reiff and Kalil are gonna be off the board by our pick. I do think Coples, Poe, DeCastro and Keuchly will be there but i have reservations about all of them. DeCastro is a GUARD. Not exactly high value. Poe is a workout warrior that did not produce at Memphis, Coples reminds me of Peppers with a less consistent motor, and Keuchly like DeCastro is low value at 9. No one is talking about the Corners. Everyone is fixated on Claibourne but Stephen Gilmore and Dre Kirkpatrick are also talented kids. Lots of folks also have talked about how bad our dline was at stopping the run or maintaining a pass rush. I saw it too, but i also saw Gamble exposed several times too. We need to start grooming a top CB. Capt. Butler, and Hogan are not the answer. Point blank. Top of the second we can address DE/DT or OLB. The talent is deep at those positions this year.

How do you know about Hogan and Butler (Captain, I agree with)? Butler was brought in late, and his season was interrupted with his sick child, so it's hard to guage what to expect from him with a full off-season here and no personal issues (hopefully). Hogan, on the other hand, barely even played...which seemed to be the plan going into the season. But when he did, he actually looked very good. And from everything that came out of Panther practices last season, Hogan was looking great, even doing well against Smitty.

That's not saying they are sure things, but there's nothing to lead to an assumption that they can't or won't be the answer.

[Kuech the Sneak]

I'm hoping Jacksonville passes on coples, either that or claiborne dropping

[pantherj]

All drafts are wait and see. Coples is our best bet at 9th.

[stirs]

Yep, there is value at being around 5th pick, and then again around 13, then 20-24

Wish we could move back to 13 or so.

[carolina-chuck]

Coples is a better and safer pick.

He probably was the best player at the senior bowl.

Poe hasnt shown anything, but a great combine.

[davos]

I recently asked some friends at UNC what they though of Coples and they really said that it didn't even seem like he was there this past year. And then of course I constantly hear red flags about the kid in the media and here. He was at program with a sh*t situation but on the other side...he's the only supposed "athletic freak" at DE in this year's draft. I'm just down right uncomfortable getting him, but if we do...maybe Ron & Sean can make him into a star.

If I was Hurney, I'd make it look like I'm giving him a hard look regardless because someone could trade up for him rather than us and we could get some great compensation in a top-heavy draft and then picks 7-23 being quite one big blur.

[jramsey4]

I completly disagree on the pick having to be a DE/DT. Or that the safe picks are OL or LB. Honestly, i think Reiff and Kalil are gonna be off the board by our pick. I do think Coples, Poe, DeCastro and Keuchly will be there but i have reservations about all of them. DeCastro is a GUARD. Not exactly high value. Poe is a workout warrior that did not produce at Memphis, Coples reminds me of Peppers with a less consistent motor, and Keuchly like DeCastro is low value at 9. No one is talking about the Corners. Everyone is fixated on Claibourne but Stephen Gilmore and Dre Kirkpatrick are also talented kids. Lots of folks also have talked about how bad our dline was at stopping the run or maintaining a pass rush. I saw it too, but i also saw Gamble exposed several times too. We need to start grooming a top CB. Capt. Butler, and Hogan are not the answer. Point blank. Top of the second we can address DE/DT or OLB. The talent is deep at those positions this year.

Tell that to the Bucs and Carl Nicks (5yr 47.5 mil deal). Considering Decastro would be considered elite as soon as we unwrapped the package thats a serious discount (last years #9 4 yr a little over 12 mil). People on here completely ignore how draft trends from the 90's and 00's won't hold up with the rookie cap. G's (especially on Decastro's level) will go a lot sooner then in the past. Even with all those preconceived notions he is still projected to go only 2 picks after us to the Chiefs in almost every mock. If you want a elite prospect at a position of need unless Claiborne falls to us Decastro's it.