Warren Sapp Should Be Fired For His 'snitch' Comments

[jasonluckydog]

well here we go

Jeremy Shockey wants the NFL to punish network analyst Warren Sapp for saying he’s an informant

Free agent tight end Jeremy Shockey continued to vent his displeasure with NFL Network analyst Warren Sapp and the league in general over accusations that he was an informant in the New Orleans Saints bounty scandal that resulted in extensive penalties for the team.

Shockey continued to emphatically deny he said anything to the league and communicated that directly with Saints coach Sean Payton on Thursday. Shockey said he has not been contacted by anyone with the NFL regarding its apparent violation of league policy that whistleblowers not be identified.

In addition, Shockey said he has been contacted by multiple lawyers about filing a lawsuit over the matter.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/jeremy-shockey-wants-nfl-punish-025800754--nfl.html

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

Wait? Wasn't being the informant a good thing?

[Kevin Greene]

Put a jersey on!

Sapp is a Buc and a Raider. Yeah, he's a douche.

[PantherPhann89]

Who cares who blu the whistle. What they were doing is wrong. Lets punish them and not the pigeon.

[CRA]

If Shockey was the snitch is does create issues since Sapp is employed by the NFL

[Wyank]

Even if he wasn't the snitch, it still creates problems for the NFL since Sapp is employed by them.

[MadHatter]

Some of you act like he called Shock an N-word, a jewish insult, a *****, every curse word in the book, etc.

Snitch is nowhere near worthy of slander, a firing, or a suspension. Get a grip.

0h n0es!1 He smack talked a Panther! He's eViLsss!!111

It is not totally about slander.

It is actually about the fact that "whistle blowers" are protected by law. For Sapp to do this as an employee of the NFL, it causes the NFL some legal issues.

If a n unaffilitated journalist broke it....no big deal. Sapp is an employee of the NFL. Therefore, the NFL did not protect the rights of the whistle blower....it is an issue.

[rayzor]

Some of you act like he called Shock an N-word, a jewish insult, a *****, every curse word in the book, etc.

Snitch is nowhere near worthy of slander, a firing, or a suspension. Get a grip.

0h n0es!1 He smack talked a Panther! He's eViLsss!!111

the word snitch carries with it a very negative and in many cases harmful connotation. it's a derogatory name given to people letting others know this person can't be trusted and this will carry over into locker rooms and could carry over into hiring decisions by other teams.

calling someone that is worth firing or being suspended over in this situation because it was a representative of the league on their own network pointing out someone as the snitch (and using the word snitch it important because it vilifies the whistleblower). the NFL said they would keep the names of informants secret because of the potential backlash from teammates and coaches (current or future) or, as some have pointed out...crazed fans. sapp shouldn't have been asked about it on air on their network and he, as an employee of the league...not a player, but a public representative, shouldn't have said it and it doesn't really matter if shockey was or wasn't because the message to others who might think about doing the right thing and blowing the whistle on other things is going to be "the league said it would keep my identity a secret, but they won't. in fact they'll allow it to be broadcast on their own network. that's going to keep well intentioned people from doing the right thing.

[rayzor]

I actually love how players are going out of their way saying they "ARE NOT THE SNITCH". Shouldn't the snitch be hailed as a hero and as a person standing up for the good of the game? You would think player/players would be coming out of the woodwork owning up... I ask again. Why is this person hiding and why is Shockey soo bent on proving he's not the one.

Wait? Wasn't being the informant a good thing?

yes, it is a good thing, but i think you're missing the point. it's got everything to do with the stigma within an organization when one of it's own turns them in when they've been doing something wrong.

as you can tell from sapp's tone and the comments that "snitches get stitches" that while it's admirable in the big picture to shed light on corrupt, it's still seen as being a turn coat by too many of those inside the organization...and by organization here i don't just mean team.

even though the whistlebower did the right thing, there's going to be people who don't trust him anymore and who won't want him on their team...and this goes for players and coaches. one of the reasons that people work so hard to conceal their identity is because of the backlash that can come from people who consider him a traitor. he shouldn't be considered that, but that is the way it's viewed by many.

in many cases, people who blow the whistle on organizations will have trouble finding work and may even find their lives in jeopardy. there are laws protecting whistle blowers from getting fired for doing just that, but it rarely works because employers will find another reason to fire them and then effectively blacklist that employee by throwing their name out there as the whistle blower and tell other organizations that this person can't be trusted and is shouldn't be hired.

then there is the issue, as i pointed out earlier, of the crazed fans. some nut job saints fan pissed at shockey for ruining their season...you know, when they are the "team of destiny" and were supposed to be winning the superbowl in their own stadium...might seek out shockey and stalk him, harrass him, threaten him, or try to kill him. if you think that this wouldn't happen or is completely unlikely, then you are beyond delusional.

it's a good thing that the whistle blower did and whoever it is should be hailed a hero and probably would by the vast majority of the people, but it's those few people who are pissed at what he did and the negative effect that some would have that makes this something worth hiding your identity. the backlash from a few is worth concealing your identity to all.

[CRA]

Shockey very well could of been 1 of the players. Goodell said

He had more than 1 player come forward and talk...

Plus if he is the snitch, it ain't like he would admit to it. Probably thought he was selling out Gregg and not

Payton anyway. Doesn't even sound like Payton trusted Williams since had a mole

on the defense staff informing him of everything Williams did

[rayzor]

yeah, shockey could have been one of the informants...50+k of pages would let you know there were several people giving the NFL info about what the saints and other gregg williams teams were doing. it's also very likely that if shockey was one of them that he may have thought it was just the douche coordinator that would get in trouble and not payton who he's got a good relationship with. he may not have known how widespread this thing was. his little bit of info was just one piece of a big ol' puzzle that the league put together...but that's only if he was one of the informants.

even if he was one of them, i wouldn't blame him one bit for trying to deny it and being pissed that some jerk outed him. there's no way i would want people to know just because of the actions a few might take to pay me back.

[Proudiddy]

Why does Sapp care anyway? And what does he think he just did? Snitched on a snitch? lol... And they share the same alma mater... What happened to loyalty?

Anyway, Dan Patrick says Shockey is coming on his show in the next segment if you guys want to tune in. He also said he invited Warren Sapp but they haven't gotten a response.

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

yes, it is a good thing, but i think you're missing the point. it's got everything to do with the stigma within an organization when one of it's own turns them in when they've been doing something wrong.

as you can tell from sapp's tone and the comments that "snitches get stitches" that while it's admirable in the big picture to shed light on corrupt, it's still seen as being a turn coat by too many of those inside the organization...and by organization here i don't just mean team.

even though the whistlebower did the right thing, there's going to be people who don't trust him anymore and who won't want him on their team...and this goes for players and coaches. one of the reasons that people work so hard to conceal their identity is because of the backlash that can come from people who consider him a traitor. he shouldn't be considered that, but that is the way it's viewed by many.

in many cases, people who blow the whistle on organizations will have trouble finding work and may even find their lives in jeopardy. there are laws protecting whistle blowers from getting fired for doing just that, but it rarely works because employers will find another reason to fire them and then effectively blacklist that employee by throwing their name out there as the whistle blower and tell other organizations that this person can't be trusted and is shouldn't be hired.

then there is the issue, as i pointed out earlier, of the crazed fans. some nut job saints fan pissed at shockey for ruining their season...you know, when they are the "team of destiny" and were supposed to be winning the superbowl in their own stadium...might seek out shockey and stalk him, harrass him, threaten him, or try to kill him. if you think that this wouldn't happen or is completely unlikely, then you are beyond delusional.

it's a good thing that the whistle blower did and whoever it is should be hailed a hero and probably would by the vast majority of the people, but it's those few people who are pissed at what he did and the negative effect that some would have that makes this something worth hiding your identity. the backlash from a few is worth concealing your identity to all.

Good stuff and thanks for the feedback. And i agree that some fans (of all teams) would go psycho on him.

But i still have a problem with people throw their own teamates/family/friends, even co workers under the bus.

I guess its just the way i grow up and the people i roll with.

[rayzor]

Good stuff and thanks for the feedback. And i agree that some fans (of all teams) would go psycho on him.

But i still have a problem with people throw their own teamates/family/friends, even co workers under the bus.

I guess its just the way i grow up and the people i roll with.

it's the right thing to do, though. when bad things are being done, those who know about it have a responsibility to help it stop. if they allow it to go on, they are essentially allowing it to happen and some guilt falls on them.

it's not throwing teammates/family/friends under the bus. it's those who do wrong that throw their teammates/friends/family under the bus by forcing them into a dilemma where they have to decide whether or not to do the right thing and expose wrong things that are done or be "loyal".

imo, those people who intentionally do wrong to others don't deserve the loyalty of those close to them. they give that up. it's just unfortunate that those who want to see wrong things made right are vilified as they are because it bleeds over into so many other areas. if you know that your brother is raping children do you just let it go because he's your brother or do you turn them in and make it stop? that situation might seem like a no brainer, but it's done quite frequently because of this idea that "you don't throw those close to you under the bus".

i'm also not saying that what the saints did is anywhere near the same level as some guy raping kids, but between those two areas i have to ask is there a line between those two where you would or wouldn't turn them in and if so, where is it and why?