Wahle/Lucas signings

[Fiz]

I guess you just can't have a legitimate discussion at a Kool Aid stand.

yes you know me blind Panther supporter

The Panthers were picked to be in the Super Bowl by many in both 2006 and 2007. They didn't make the playoffs.

just so I'm clear here, are you blaming the Panthers not making the playoffs in 06 and 07 on Wahle and Lucas?

They replace Wahle.

Wahle had blown out his shoulder and was done.

The point of this thread...is that going after big money free agents is not the answer.

then you shouldn't preface your "point" with ridiculous ideas like this was the worst thing to have happened to the Panthers in the John Fox era

You build through the draft and you go for the second and third level free agents.

ahh, a truism. Twee

The Panthers returned to that philosophy and look what has happened.

lol yes the Panthers not going out and signing Bernard Berrian is what has won them games, and not health at QB, the offensive line, the middle linebacker position, and commitment to the running game.

everyone post something that was worse than the wahle and lucas signing

Justin Hartwig

[goodlay]

Here's some hints: Hackett, Landon

But how much cap room did that cost us?

I think Wahle had a good first year here but after that it was all down hill imo, and Lucas has been solid all 3 years, so was all that money worth it? Probably not, but I don't really care seeing we're 10-3 and fighting for the number 1 seed in the NFC.

[Doc Holiday]

Keyshawn Johnson

[Gscottnc5]

It is my opinion that the Mike Wahle and Ken Lucas free agent signings were the worst thing to have happened to this franchise in the past five years. Yes, including Keyshawn. The Panthers had a tight knit group full of Brad Hoovers, Jake Delhommes and Mike Minters....guys who didn't make Pro Bowls (except for Delhomme) but gave everything they had year after year. Wahle and Lucas come in and sign for more money than all of these guys, and neither one of them lived up to their contract. Neither player was a stiff, mind you, but the Panthers ventured into the deep end of free agency (spending big bucks) thinking they were one or two players away. This is the most dangerous thing a GM can think. Discuss.

STFU - who cares. Lucas is a great player.

[bigdog10]

Wahle was a beast prior to the shoulder injury....

and lucas was a very very large part of the reason our defense was so solid in 2005

Lucas is having a down year, but to say that he is the worst thing this franchise has done is ridiculous

[SorthNarolina]

Isn't that why we have message boards? I respect your opinion as long as you respect mine. Why do you disagree?

my opinion is so far from yours it would take a long time to find some middle ground, it's just easier to disagree

[tight lines]

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everyone post something that was worse than the wahle and lucas signing

Justin Hartwig

Drew Carter, Kerry Colbert, Landon Johnson, David Carr, Keyshawn Johnson....

[panthersphan]

Jake's season ending injury is the WORST thing that's happened in the last 5 years.

Wahle is gone, so who cares? We have Wharton, Gross, Otah, Vincent, and Kalil...why don't you give us props for the BEST OLINE WE HAVE EVER HAD.

Luc has had is moments, maybe he's not worth allll the money....but it could be a lot worse than Ken Lucas.