Delhomme has new deal

[unicar15]

Doesn't bother me because it means nothing when thinking about his longevity with the franchise. They gave him a deal where he would make a good deal of money (probably decreased his 11 million dollar hit for this year) and there is no way he is our QB when he is 39. He will either break down before then or will be replaced...

[Sam Mills Fan]

Aw Mr. Beauxjangles, you're such a cutie-pie when you're being such a homer.

[Sam Mills Fan]

$20 mil guaranteed? Link?

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Good move. We have, what, 8 mill in cap space now?

[Jangler]

Seriously.

If you didn't expect this, you were clueless.

If you think it's a true "extension" as opposed to a cap move, you don't understand contracts.

If you think Jake is a terrible QB or that one game means he should never play again, you have no sense of reality and watch no football other than Panthers games.

Wow! Dude lay off the Red Bull. He was poking at some of those running around with thier heads on fire.

[Panthro]

Wonder if the people laid off in the front office because of the economy are sporting his jersey today

[rayzor]

$20 mil guaranteed? Link?

http://www.heraldonline.com/247/story/1290954.html

five-year deal that agent Rick Smith said is worth $42.5 million with $20 million in guarantees. Smith said the contract's structure was "extremely complicated" but will save the Panthers at least a couple million in 2009 cap space.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2009/04/panthers-extend-delhomme.html

"extremely complicated" = incentive based most likely.

[scpanther22]

ditto.

Here's my one and only take on the Jake discussion. I have never bit on any of those threads He is an average quarterback. Any one that says he is great is delusional. Anyone that says he is garbage is delusional. Most of the time he does what the offense asks him to do. Every QB has a few bad games each season.

So here's my way of determining Jake's relative position. Here are all the starting QBs in the league - sorry if I missed any, and obviously things are in flux in some places. I'm adding Stafford and Sanchez to the list, and just putting "Bucs starter" since I wouldn't trade Jake for any of those QBs. So look at the list and consider which QBs you would trade Jake for straight up (considering talent, age, etc). If I didn't say "yes" immediately, I marked them as "No, I wouldn't trade Jake straight up."

Drew Brees Y

Tom Brady Y

Peyton Manning Y

Philip Rivers Y

Aaron Rodgers Y

Kurt Warner N

Tony Romo N

Jay Cutler N

Donovan McNabb N

Carson Palmer Y

Matt Cassel N

Matt Schaub N

Matt Ryan Y

Ben Roethlisberger Y

Eli Manning Y

Matt Hasselbeck N

Kyle Orton N

Trent Edwards N

Joe Flacco Y

Chad Pennington N

David Garrard N

Shaun Hill N

Jason Campbell NJaMarcus Russell N

Brady Quinn N

Marc Bulger N

Sage Rosenfels N

Daunte Culpepper/Matthew Stafford N

Kerry Collins N

Kellen Clemens/Jets starter N

Marc Sanchez N

There are ten QBs that I'd absolutely trade Jake for - and of course, this isn't supposed to be realistic. It's just a hypothetical. (I know, I know, that's the most hated word on this forum)

So as it turns out, I value him a little more than I thought. I expected to have 14-16 QBs on the list, and probably would with some of the "maybes."

In the great words of Coach Fox, he is what he is. An average QB. And that's fine with me. You can't have a pro bowler at every position. And I'm pretty happy with how this team is developing.

are you serious...

[crunkpanther]

One thing I do wonder about this is the timing of it and how that relates to Peppers' situation.

I see two ways of looking at it.

One is, this means we think we're not going to be able to move Peppers, so we had to do this to get some cap space to sign the free agents we're going to need.

The other, which I think might be more likely, is that we wanted to push up Peppers' value by sending the message to the rest of the league that we DON'T have to move him just so we can sign those free agents. That might have been hurting his value, that teams saw how desperate we were for cap space. Well, now we have cap space. Peppers' value should rise.

[Kurb]

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[Panthro]

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So I cant bitch and moan when they do something I hate?

[Kurb]

So I cant bitch and moan when they do something I hate?

It's just a cap move

<3

[crunkpanther]

Wow! Dude lay off the Red Bull. He was poking at some of those running around with thier heads on fire.

That actually wasn't directed at Monstercat, but at the flaming head people.

[rayzor]

So I cant bitch and moan when they do something I hate?

i think you should. it's really funny, but not as funny as some of the others are going to get.