Good reading on "Bountygate"

[Lumps]

this thread makes me really happy

[Mr. Scot]

Being reported by NFL Network that they're in the Principal's office today.

Could mean the announcement is coming soon.

[Frizzy350]

"bountygate"? really? spygate was a stupid name. bountygate sounds even more stupid.

neither of these two scandals have anything to do with gates and even less to do with watergate. are we really going to start naming every headline worthy scandal *something*gate from here on out?

[Mr. Scot]

"bountygate"? really? spygate was a stupid name. bountygate sounds even more stupid.

neither of these two scandals have anything to do with gates and even less to do with watergate. are we really going to start naming every headline worthy scandal *something*gate from here on out?

That's been a media practice for a while now.

And let's be honest. It's easier to say and write than "the Saints bounty scandal".

[Panther'sBigD]

You had to know Newton would have been a target since we played the Saints. But if someone else also had a bounty on Newton, I'd certainly like to know who.

Of course, my guess is any such effort is likely to be about as successful as thos story that opens Freeman's first article:

So they had a bounty program where the starting payout was $2,000, for the type of hit that usually results in a $25,000+ fine? Sounds fishy. I mean these guys aren't rocket surgeons, but are they really that stupid?

[Inimicus]

The bounty wasn't for the method, but rather the result.

Arguing about the method of how a player was knocked out of the game really just detracts from the underlying issue. Players were being paid to take members of the opposition out.

How much or how little is beside the point.

[DJ Insicion]

If the Saints loose a first round pick and more I'll be soooooo happy

[Panther'sBigD]

The bounty wasn't for the method, but rather the result.

Arguing about the method of how a player was knocked out of the game really just detracts from the underlying issue. Players were being paid to take members of the opposition out.

How much or how little is beside the point.

Again, I ask, why would you risk a $25,000 fine for a $2,000 bounty?

And if you were willing to do that, to me it would mean that you're pretty confident that the refs aren't going to flag you for it anyway.

If they're going to bury the Saints underneath the Superdome, they should also make sure the officials that no-called their games never officiate another game and are fined in some way.

[breezing2anotherSB]

According to an investigative report posted on the Charlotte Observer's Web site on Sunday, a number of Carolina Panthers used a vast quantity and tremendous variety of performance-enhancing drugs during the team's 2004 Super Bowl season.

The newspaper looked at medical records and court documents released in conjunction with the federal steroids case against Dr. James Shortt, who last month was sentenced to one year and one day in prison for distributing steroids and human growth hormone.

"Several of [the players] were using disturbing, particularly alarmingly high amounts with high dosages for long durations -- some in combinations," said Dr. Gary Wadler, who prepared a report for the U.S. Attorney's Office that was used to prosecute Shortt. "This wasn't just a passing flirtation with these prohibited substances. When I see [prescriptions] 'renewed five times,' I say, 'What are you trying to accomplish?' "

Players' names were blacked out on Wadler's report, but the Observer reported that six Panthers -- and three of the five starting offensive linemen from the Super Bowl team -- were taking performance enhancers. And many reported adverse reactions.

[Mr. Scot]

It's the funniest thing, but nothing ever came of that report. And given how long it's been since that time, I guess nothing ever will.

Darn shame, huh? :sosp:

The Saints, however, are about to get punished big time :lol:

Maybe it's because the coaches weren't involved. Or then again,maybe the league just likes the Panthers better (which is understandable).

[breezing2anotherSB]

It's the funniest thing,but nothing ever came of that report. And given how long it's been, nothing ever will.

The Saints, however, are about to get punished big time :lol:

Maybe it's because the coaches weren't involved. Or then again,maybe the league just likes the Panthers better (which is understandable).

Of course nothing came out of it because the Panthers lost and really have not been a threat to win the Super Bowl since. When you are a real winning organization that actually has won a Super Bowl without using illegal drugs or trying to gain an unfair advantage you get put under a microscope. The fact that any Panther fan would judge anything the Saints allegedly have done after having a team go to a Super Bowl only because of their rampant steroid usage is not only laughable but it is pathetic as well.

[Wyank]

lol

[Panthercougar68]

Of course nothing came out of it because the Panthers lost and really have not been a threat to win the Super Bowl since. When you are a real winning organization that actually has won a Super Bowl without using illegal drugs or trying to gain an unfair advantage you get put under a microscope. The fact that any Panther fan would judge anything the Saints allegedly have done after having a team go to a Super Bowl only because of their rampant steroid usage is not only laughable but it is pathetic as well.

Well uh your "winning" franchise has about 87 more games to win to reach .500 all time.

And 2005 says hi.

[Jon Snow]

Of course nothing came out of it because the Panthers lost and really have not been a threat to win the Super Bowl since. When you are a real winning organization that actually has won a Super Bowl without using illegal drugs or trying to gain an unfair advantage you get put under a microscope. The fact that any Panther fan would judge anything the Saints allegedly have done after having a team go to a Super Bowl only because of their rampant steroid usage is not only laughable but it is pathetic as well.

5 players were accused of juicing here verses 22 to 27 players plus coaches, GM and owner accused of payouts to injure apposing players to gain an advantage there. Hmmm...doesn't seem quit on the same level does it?