Ron Edwards

[csx]

There are about 5 DTs in the league that are household names, so your point makes no sense.

For example, Ahtyba Rubin. Most NFL fans outside of Cleveland have no freaking clue who that guy is and he's one of the best in the league. Now in no way am I comparing Ron Edwards to him but just because he wasn't "well-known" doesn't mean he wasn't brought in to be a starter after several years of consistent production.

People who spend all day posting about the NFL online are not in the category of "household".

I'm referring to the people here who post the obligatory "who?" when he was signed who have never seen him play and then go on to refer to him as the beast who is coming back to save our DL.

These are likely the same people who have a new must draft guy everyday of the combine from reading the results.

My post probably came off more negative towards Edwards than intended. He was always just that typical Panthers value FA pickup. He should have some value but not "OMG, Ron Edwards is back!" type of recognition around the media.

[jarhead]

i didn't say you did. i'm just giving reasons, as did you in the OP, why he hasn't been mentioned.

if there is a stud DT there at #9 among our choices, you don't say "well, we've got ron edwards so....pass."

the argument is whether or not there is a solid DT choice there. ron edwards isn't someone that you would factor heavily into the decision.

fua and mcclain...i can see that since we used a couple 3rd rounders on them last year, but not edwards.

the only decision i would factor edwards being on the roster would be deciding whether or not to pick one up in FA. just not the draft.

Even if we would draft another DT we still need Edwards as a stop gap until these rookies develope.We signed him to a 3 year deal

[Panthro]

Ask the Giants what they would do...

[JawnyBlaze]

Writing off both 3rd round rookie DTs who started from game 1 is very short-sighted. This position almost always takes at least 1 year just to develop their pro body. CJ sucked his first two years.

CJ didn't suck his first two years, a lot of us were predicting once he became a starter he'd be very good. His first year he had a higher sack/snap ratio than Peppers if I recall correctly. His second year I think he had like 1 less sack but still looked good in limited playing time.

[panthers55]

CJ didn't suck his first two years, a lot of us were predicting once he became a starter he'd be very good. His first year he had a higher sack/snap ratio than Peppers if I recall correctly. His second year I think he had like 1 less sack but still looked good in limited playing time.

Johnson didn't suck he was just developing his NFL body and working on his technique and run defense. He came in as a junior and was a project from day 1 just like Brockers or Poe would be.

He had a higher sack per snap ratio because he was largely used on pasing downs so that is what you would expect. Those numbers don't tell you much. I bet the guy who had the highest sacks to snap count last year was Kearse. Does that mean he should be the starter??

For everyone else:

As for Edwards, nose tackle isn't the sexy position that DE is for example. But the question remains would you get more value picking someone else up in free agency to play the nose versus keeping Edwards and the guys we picked up last year. At this point my sense would be no. Even if we picked up a guy like Brockers or Poe in the draft it would be most likely to play 3 technique not the nose.

[MadHatter]

He was barely worth mentioning when he first signed much less now. There is a reason you didn't know who he was before he got hurt.

The ignorance is strong with you.....

You did not know him because you did not follow the Chiefs. Edwards is and has been a VERY solid NT. Just because some moron on a MB has not heard of him does not diminish the player he is.

Please stick to Madden...hopefully you have a clue what you are doing there.

[Panthro]

He was a solid run stuffing DT with the Chiefs. He's a bit older and coming off IR.

[MadHatter]

He was a solid run stuffing DT with the Chiefs. He's a bit older and coming off IR.

Agreed. That is why I believe we should sign another vet DT in FA (Garay) and let the young guys we have rotate in and develop.

Adding another rookie to what we have is not likely to have any positive impact this season.

[rippadonn]

Not adding rookie DT's is why we've been so weak at that position. They failed to invest in the future and now it shows. We don't have even one first or second rounder on the DLine. You cannot defend that total lapse

[DaveThePanther2008]

Writing off both 3rd round rookie DTs who started from game 1 is very short-sighted. This position almost always takes at least 1 year just to develop their pro body. CJ sucked his first two years.

We have alot of young players still developing on the d-line and I would feel more comfortable bringing in a veteran like garay rather than throwing another rookie into the mix

While I am not against us drafting POE or Brockers I believe our young DTs will be better than last season.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

My preference would be

CJ

Edwards

Cox

Sign a vet DE, let Hardy rotate in

looks like a respectable Dline. not dominant but much improved over what we had last year

[DaveThePanther2008]

My preference would be

CJ

Edwards

Cox

Sign a vet DE, let Hardy rotate in

looks like a respectable Dline. not dominant but much improved over what we had last year

DT is probably one of the most difficult positions to come into the NFL at. Rarely do you have a DT that performs at a top level. If you are going to throw a rookie in there. We might as well let Poe or Brockers grow into that position. 322 and 346 is much better than 295. I definitely wouldn't go after Cox with the #9 Pick.

[csx]

The ignorance is strong with you.....

You did not know him because you did not follow the Chiefs. Edwards is and has been a VERY solid NT. Just because some moron on a MB has not heard of him does not diminish the player he is.

Please stick to Madden...hopefully you have a clue what you are doing there.

I've never plaid Madden in my life but nice attempt at an insult there....I guess.

He was not a very solid NT. They drafted his replacement and let him be signed away because he was not fit to play NT. He was a competent aging player not suited for the 3-4 who had played on very suspect run defenses for years.

That is not an attack on Ron Edwards, that is exactly the situation..

[pantherclaw]

I'm still waiting to see if ron edwards was worth his contract.

He played the injured mentor role well, but i'm pretty sure he was paid to play, and lead by example.