Pick trade speculation from Gant

[posthumecaver]

For the last month Gant was speculating about Panthers might potentially trade next years 1st, let say for New Englang's 34th and a 5th or 6th rounder...

Now I thinking over this possiblity, with an additional trade, lets say we also trade this pick for a low second round and a low 3rd...

So we would have 2 2nd at the range of the 50 - 59 and 2 3rds at the range of 80-93...

at the 50-59 range we should have Sidbury, Marks and Gilbert there, picking any combination of them there would be quite Ok I guess...

and at the 80-93 range we could get a serviceable OT/G/C and a CB...

I would not consider this a bad scenario and would not be that down about giving next years 1st because it looks like with JP locking our Salary Cap, we have to build our backups with draft...

I believe we would not able to trade JP after the draft, FO would not trade him anything other then draft picks in this draft....And I have a strong feeling JP would holdout (because he is Julius Peppers, he is the only guy who can holdout instead of a 16mil$ pay-check)...

We need lots of picks to fillup the positions for the backups..

[carpanfan96]

I'd say Nah, for us to give up a first in Next Years draft (deeper talent wise) then we would have to get the 23rd pick plus a 3rd or 4th as well. Then depending on how we finish the season it would be a win or a loss trade value wise.

[OneBadassCat]

I think if we are going to make any moves we should trade next years picks as we did last year. I don't see the compensation of trading Peppers really helpful to us right now. Many see NE only giving us a 1st. Thats not enough. I think we need to try and get an early second or late 1st round pick regardless if we trade Pep or not.

[jbland]

I say stay where we are, and not put ourselves bigger into the draft hole. If peppers is tagged again next year(the uncapped year) and we trade him him then than we will be sitting pretty in the draft next year with maybe 7-8 picks.

[posthumecaver]

As I mentioned before, I have a feeling Peppers would holdout and cripple us...

I am sure we would get some undrafted good guys and some bargain from the FAs but our roster at the moment around 54 I think...

We would have to get 80 people to reach the limit of 80, if 7-8 guy of this 24 would come from draft that would be good....

Otherwise we would have to work people that nobody else wanted...

[SorthNarolina]

pepper's isn't going to holdout, you seem to hold him in a different light than other people

even the people who don't like him feel like he won't hold out, it's just not a good career decision

[mantal]

pepper's isn't going to holdout, you seem to hold him in a different light than other people

even the people who don't like him feel like he won't hold out, it's just not a good career decision

At 29 going on 30 it would be insane to hold out. Not even he and Carey are that stupid...

[Panthro]

I'd say Nah, for us to give up a first in Next Years draft (deeper talent wise) then we would have to get the 23rd pick plus a 3rd or 4th as well. Then depending on how we finish the season it would be a win or a loss trade value wise.

What you want and reality are about as far part as they can get. Why the hell would they trade a 1st and a 3/4th round pick for our 1st round pick next year...when there's a good chance it will be worse than 23!!!!

A 1st in 2010 = a 2nd in 2009

:banghead:

[MadHatter]

I think if we are going to make any moves we should trade next years picks as we did last year. I don't see the compensation of trading Peppers really helpful to us right now. Many see NE only giving us a 1st. Thats not enough. I think we need to try and get an early second or late 1st round pick regardless if we trade Pep or not.

A 1st and the $17M in Cap Space is DEFINITELY enough for Peppers.

[faultlessjoint]

I can't believe I never thought of this before:

Why don't we just trade next year's first for a first this year. And then do the same thing every year for the rest of the franchise's history. Then when the panthers / nfl cease to exist we will have gotten one extra first round pick.

[posthumecaver]

What scares me is the character of Peppers...

We are speaking about an extremely shy and inner reflecting guy...

Do you think he would play against in a stadium that is booing him....

I sincerely believe only reason he is not signing his tender is that he doesn't have to play for Panthers...

I am not buying that he wants to control his destiny think, do you think when Peppers says he doesn't to play for a team, that team will invest 80+ mil$ and multiple draft picks to a guy who says he does not want to play for them...

[The Link]

What you want and reality are about as far part as they can get. Why the hell would they trade a 1st and a 3/4th round pick for our 1st round pick next year...when there's a good chance it will be worse than 23!!!!

A 1st in 2010 = a 2nd in 2009

:banghead:

2010 is going to be a better draft class talent wise.

[Panthro]

2010 is going to be a better draft class talent wise.

You say that with such confidence...

[posthumecaver]

Well I am not saying we should trade our 1st until to eternity....

But at least until to a year that we are not crippled with a 17mil$ salary...