The odds of Beason coming back like he was, are not that good

[Ruff]

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Just like last year when they were sure Davis would come back and even let him do things early. Oh that makes me feel even better.........

Apples and oranges.

Thomas Davis had two previous injuries that weakened the ligament. Once you work on that ligament more than once, the chances to fully heal it are lessened with each surgery.

Beason has had this one injury, and has had an entire season to heal. It'll be okay.

So many fans are doomsayers. I don't get it.

[panthers55]

DeMeco Ryans also didn't have an offseason to workout with his team's doctors because of the lockout, and he came back into a new 3-4 system, where he was bound to share tackles with the other ILB, whereas before he was only a 4-3 MLB.

Also, Ryan Howard tore his Achilles in October of last year during the Major League playoffs. He's ready to go right now. I know it's not a football injury, but all reports are that he's healthy (other than a surgical incision that isn't healing up, which they're not sure about).

The injury will be fine. Will it take some time for him to get back where he was? Sure. But, Beason's young enough, will have had almost a year with doctors since the injury, and hopefully will be behind some DTs that allow him to play freely.

http://calltothepen.com/2012/03/05/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies-taking-it-slow-with-slugger/

Last week we learned that Philadelphia Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard had faced a setback to his recovery from Achilles surgery. While the repaired Achilles was still intact, Howard had contracted an infection in his original wound. The Phillies didn’t have a timeframe for recover then, and they apparently still don’t now. All that Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro could say regarding Howard’s return was that the slugger “could be backed up for a while”.

[Ruff]

http://calltothepen.com/2012/03/05/ryan-howard-philadelphia-phillies-taking-it-slow-with-slugger/

I said as much. Read the article yourself. It says that his Achilles is intact. It's just the wound (or, as I said, surgical incision) is infected, and they're not sure what's going on. That has nothing to do with the Achilles, and sounds like a problem with the medical treatment he is receiving.

[panthers55]

Apples and oranges.

Thomas Davis had two previous injuries that weakened the ligament. Once you work on that ligament more than once, the chances to fully heal it are lessened with each surgery.

Beason has had this one injury, and has had an entire season to heal. It'll be okay.

So many fans are doomsayers. I don't get it.

Actually the ligament was gone that is why they did the surgery. They used 2 muscles as tendons and this time they used a patellar tendon from the other knee similarly to my surgery. The problem is the attachment site. Each time they take bone and scoop out a space for the tendon/ligament to reattach it. Each time you do that, you weaken the bone structure around the repair site making it more likely it won't heal as well.

[CRA]

All we can do is hope and pray for a full recovery.

FWIW, i'll take a 75% Beason over the majority of the linebackers we rotated through last year.

Beason isnt that good. A 75% Beason makes him just a guy...a guy with leadership but nothing special.

[Actionman0z]

What is the sample size? I do not know how much I can trust these stats based on the fact that the game is not played the same each week.. I would assume that there is some dropoff based on the injury, but how much is interesting, and I am not sure if it is measurable.

[Ruff]

Actually the ligament was gone that is why they did the surgery. They used 2 muscles as tendons and this time they used a patellar tendon from the other knee similarly to my surgery. The problem is the attachment site. Each time they take bone and scoop out a space for the tendon/ligament to reattach it. Each time you do that, you weaken the bone structure around the repair site making it more likely it won't heal as well.

Why do you keep repeating what I say, then try it make and seem like you're saying something new? I obviously said that the site becomes weaker whenever you have previous injuries.

And no, the word you're looking for is not "gone", the ligament didn't put on a top hat, a tuxedo, and waltz out the front door. It was torn, which means that it's there, but torn. Not gone.

[Proudiddy]

Yeah, I was generally concerned before and then remembered that Spikes had a torn achilles before, and he's still producing quite well.

Ryans, I wouldn't put too much weight into... He wasn't that fast or explosive prior to the injury and the Texans drafted Cushing and made him a MLB while Ryans was there. So, there's a lot of other stuff going on there to explain his drop in stats.

It's possible that this injury takes longer than others to heal from, but I'm praying and hoping that Beason is in that small percentage that comes back completely healthy and just as explosive as before.

[Zod]

If any athlete can come back and dominate after the surgery, its Big Beas.

I am pulling for him.

[Catalyst]

It's a concern to be sure, but if anyone can do it Beason can. He's relatively young too, which helps in these cases. And has had a full season/offseason to rehab.

[Munch4455]

I don't know how people on this board feel about this, as I have never seen anyone mention it, but here it goes.

Do you guys think that HGH should be allowed in the NFL on a limited basis to players that are on IR for a serious injury?

These players will not be back for the season, and it won't be used for the normal reason it is banned, to bulk up. There are many doctor's who believe it significantly aides in the recovery from a major surgery/injury. Even to go as far as to prevent muscles from atrophy when you are immobilized after surgery. If it truly does help players heal more completely, would that not fall under the umbrella of player safety, so the injury heals more thoroughly?

[carolina-chuck]

ryans had 60s tackles last year bc they moved to a 34 defense.

34 mlb average 60-80 tackles a season

[tondi]

It wouldn't shock me if Beason had a subpar season, especially early on, but hopefully this is the kind of thing that a year or two down the road he can put behind him. I do think it will help that it happened early last season so he will have basically an entire calendar year for rehab. If he had torn it in December I would be very pessimistic about next season.

[MadHatter]

The OP is not saying that Beason will not come back strong from this injury. Only that the statistics and the evidence say that it is unlikely.

We will have to wait and see. However, I guarantee you that the FO is not just waiting to see. They know how tough it is to come back from this injury....they know that it usually takes over a year to fully recover....they will factor this injury into their decision making.