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Saints in BIG trouble...


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Why would they do it if it didn't help in some way? Get your head out of the turf, of course it provided some kind of benefit or nobody would ever have done it. It provides motivation to do something that there is little motivation to otherwise - hurting another player.

Look at the facts, this case has nothing to do with implying the Saints tried to injure someone, it has to do with money given for performance not part of contract or bonus of the player.

When you hit someone with a hard legal hit, only one of a few results:

Nothing

Slow to get up

Have to be helped off the field

Carted of the field

So basically if you are giving bonuses for big plays, then the worse the outcome the higher the reward. On the other hand, they are not out there purposely trying to injure someone. If they wanted to injure someone, they would have hit low at knees and taken the person out easily, but that isn't the case. That fact is Saints are not even top in the league for late or illegal hits. Of course the media is trying to say this tiny bit of reward money will motivate a player to cause injury. It makes no sense because nobody wil risk tens of thousands in fines and hundreds of thousands in lost wages to make a play that will win you a few hundred dollars!? If over 3 years there was this supposed motivation to injure, wouldn't there be some injured players? In fact, the majority of hurt players were Saints players.

Bottom line, this is a rule violation of pay to players issue as per NFL. Something completely unrelated to anything that happened on the field. The intent to injure argument has not empirical data to back it and is completely ridiculous when considering risk vs reward!

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It's funny because if someone took a cheapshot at Brees, Saints fans would be outraged.

I want to see someone blatantly dive at Brees's ankles, just to watch the Saints fans reaction...

If the money's right, Saints D might do it in practice. What you got?

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Are you out of your mind or just mentally challenged??? You are seriously saying that taking illegal banned substances is not as bad as a coach saying hit a guy so hard legally that you take them out? You are just like the media saying that there was some type of conspiracy to hurt people by illegal hits

...What. in. The. BABY BLUE MONKEY FUG!??!?

Really? First one says that paying a bounty to take people out of the game doesn't have anything to do with what happens on the field. Then you say that taking an illegal substa...

If you two were to fug when the planets aligned, you would create a baby of such pure stupid that it would tear a hole in space time to a new dimension that consisted entirely of a room in which a honey badger was fugging a moose while eating walnuts.

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Look at the facts, this case has nothing to do with implying the Saints tried to injure someone, it has to do with money given for performance not part of contract or bonus of the player.

You are wrong. It has to do with giving extra money to players for trying to hurt other players. That is why this is so big. If it was just extra money for interceptions, fumble recoveries, etc, it would be a big deal but NOTHING like this. This has everything to do with promoting a culture that monetarily rewards an intent to injure, which is a step beyond just hitting hard.

If the "bounty" part wasn't so integral, Goodell wouldn't have mentioned it at all.

Be realistic here. There is a reason this is called "Bountygate" and note "Bonusgate."

Edit: Taken from the NFL.com release on this, these are the first three paragraphs, note what they focus on:

After a lengthy investigation conducted by the NFL's security department, the league announced Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints maintained a "pay for performance" program that included "bounty" payments administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons.

The program runs in violation of league rules, and the investigation showed that Saints players received $1,500 for a "knockout" hit and $1,000 for a "cart-off" hit, with payouts doubling or tripling during the team's three playoff appearances.

A memo sent to clubs throughout the league included a statement on how Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma put up $10,000 cash as a bounty before a playoff game, a source familiar with the memo told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.

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First matchup of the year, after every pass I want to see one of our guys just bury Brees, or dive at his knees/ankles, maybe even snap his head back like Daniels did to Manning and watch the Saints fans cry foul.

It's a funny thing to go after other people's QB when yours is 5'9" and 180 lbs soaking wet. I'd like to see Charles Johnson snap his little ass in half and then listen to the Saints fans cry.

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Honestly, I would pay for it just to expose the ultimate hypocrisy of Saints fans... they would be outraged if someone did to Brees what they did to Farve.

Maybe we should get a pot together and set up an outside funded bounty program for taking out Saints players. Let's just not document this thing.

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What's that? You have a pit in your stomach because the greatest offense in the history of the NFL is going to return everyone? LMAO

Free agent guard Carl Nicks says he has received "respectable" contract offer from New Orleans Saints

New Orleans Saints, receiver Marques Colston reportedly working 'feverishly' toward contract

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Maybe we should get a pot together and set up an outside funded bounty program for taking out Saints players. Let's just not document this thing.

...meh.

Good thing our players are better than our fans. Go see TD's quotes on this if you want a Panther's opinion on what the Saints were doing.

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Lol but wait, 12 hours ago those guys were overpaid players who you didn't need to win. I thought signing randy moss who was going to be a pro bowler and play for peanuts was the answer.

Moss is smart enough not to board a sinking ship.

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...meh.

Good thing our players are better than our fans. Go see TD's quotes on this if you want a Panther's opinion on what the Saints were doing.

Should I have said sarcasm on?

I read his tweets. TD is a good man.

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