CPF96 Mock draft

[rayzor]

Yea, because his arms are 3/4 of an inch shorter then Kalil's. Which drops both of them if you want to be honest about it, but no one is going to that. Reiff is one of the best pure LT's in the draft and actually does a few things better in pass protection then even Kalil does.(Kalil is weak against speed rushers because of technique issues) I put Harris and DPM in their updated round, DPM might actually go earlier then that. DL isn't a very impressive class and they didn't do anything to help that image at the combine.

I honestly don't see the team making the reach for Jenkkings or Brockers/Poe at 9, so like I said in the other thread I'd move Keuchly to #9 and draft an OL prospect in the 5th round instead of Acho.

arm length doesn't have anything to do with it....well, not much anyway. you might think that he's one of the best pure LTs in the draft, but apparently several teams aren't if they are bumping him over to OG.

jenkins would have to be pretty heavily vetted for them to pick him, but the talent is most definitely there to warrant a #9 pick. if they went DT and wanted someone less of a project than brockers or poe, cox would be a solid choice there and i think he's done enough to prove he's worthy of legit consideration there.

i like keuchly more if we aren't going CB or DT. i think there are very solid OG picks later in the draft. i don't know if you could wait until the 5th, though. i'd much rather use that 4th on silatolu or schwartz if they were there than cliff harris who you could pick up in the 5th (or 6th) easily.

[carpanfan96]

arm length doesn't have anything to do with it....well, not much anyway. you might think that he's one of the best pure LTs in the draft, but apparently several teams aren't if they are bumping him over to OG.

jenkins would have to be pretty heavily vetted for them to pick him, but the talent is most definitely there to warrant a #9 pick. if they went DT and wanted someone less of a project than brockers or poe, cox would be a solid choice there and i think he's done enough to prove he's worthy of legit consideration there.

i like keuchly more if we aren't going CB or DT. i think there are very solid OG picks later in the draft. i don't know if you could wait until the 5th, though. i'd much rather use that 4th on silatolu or schwartz if they were there than cliff harris who you could pick up in the 5th (or 6th) easily.

Reiff's major mark against him was he has short arms for a LT in the NFL, that's the main reason some teams moved him to guard. If the Panther's take Jenkings they will have moved back in the draft. (His off the field question marks makes it impossible to take him at 9th overall, IMO) Kirkpatrick is a middle of the first round pick.

Brockers, Poe and Cox aren't worth a top ten pick, this is an offensive heavy draft where the out of the top 10 players 6 are clearly offensive players. "Luck, RG3, Kalil, Reiff, Blackmon, Richardson" A case could be made for Tannehill, Floyd and DeCastro being better overall players then Brockers or Coples. (I have Claiborne, Ingram, Kuechly, Coples and Brockers as the top 5 defensive players in the draft, only two have top 10 grades.) Heck I have Coples and Brockers as the top 2 DL prospect's in the draft. (meaning they probably will be taken in the top 10, but I'd rather have Kuechly then either of them based off of talent.)

I'm not completely against taking Brockers or Coples at 9, but I think there's better value at DL later in the draft.

My big board based on talent, maturity, work ethic and intangibles. (what it takes to be a NFL player basically) First 20 or so players.

Luck

Richardson

RG3

Kalil

Claiborne

Blackmon

Reiff

Kuechly (After showing he's got Athleticism, he's the 2nd D prospect in draft)

Ingram (only as a 3-4 OLB, as a DE I'd move him into the mid 20's)

DeCastro

Coples (He's got too much talent to fall much further then this, even with ?'s)

Tannehill

Floyd

Wright (There's a reason that teams had him rated higher then Blackmon)**

Brockers

Jenkings

Martin

Kirkpatrick

Poe

Cox

Still

Upshaw

**(Before the combine, quite a few teams had Wright rated higher then Blackmon)

[koolkatluke]

This isn't a offense heavy draft. Dt and CB are you're deepest positions.

Yeah I'm with Rayzor not really feeling this mock.

[koolkatluke]

There's a lot of rumblings that Carolina really likes Reiff and Martin. If Reiff is there, I'm thinking it's a lock he's picked. If not Carolina will look to move back a bit and select Martin, if they can't move back then Martin would be the pick at 9. I'm going with a 75% chance the first pick for Carolina is an OT. Other 25% chance goes defense if they think the value is there.

Where is a link to these Rumblings. I like to read that. Actually Joe Person was on the radio Wen. and said the only offensive player they would take a long look at is Blackmon. Kail also but their is no way he drops.

[carpanfan96]

This isn't a offense heavy draft. Dt and CB are you're deepest positions.

Yeah I'm with Rayzor not really feeling this mock.

Top heavy it is, read what I wrote... what you just said is a better reason to wait to pick a CB or Dt. lmao

[carpanfan96]

Where is a link to these Rumblings. I like to read that. Actually Joe Person was on the radio Wen. and said the only offensive player they would take a long look at is Blackmon. Kail also but their is no way he drops.

I heard that and thought it was funny, since those rumblings were from Indy at the combine and most teams going into Indy didn't even have Blackmon as the top rate WR. I doubt Reiff is there at 9 though,, his game tape is that good. It will probably end up being my Alt pick of Kuechly or the Panther's seriously reaching for Brockers.

[koolkatluke]

Top heavy it is, read what I wrote... what you just said is a better reason to wait to pick a CB or Dt. lmao

Yeah meaning your better talent is at these position.

Your not getting a 4th or 5th round CB who gets Capt off the field which should be the 1st or 2nd thing we do in the draft.:smash:

[koolkatluke]

I heard that and thought it was funny, since those rumblings were from Indy at the combine and most teams going into Indy didn't even have Blackmon as the top rate WR. I doubt Reiff is there at 9 though,, his game tape is that good. It will probably end up being my Alt pick of Kuechly or the Panther's seriously reaching for Brockers.

Where is your link to these rumblings which I've heard nothing about?

[carpanfan96]

Yeah meaning your better talent is at these position.

Your not getting a 4th or 5th round CB who gets Capt off the field which should be the 1st or 2nd thing we do in the draft.:smash:

The draft is top heavy for offensive players with better Defensive player depth. Also Captn sucks and I seriously think we could draft a player in the 4th round that gets him off the field. Hogan will do that this season.

[carpanfan96]

Where is your link to these rumblings which I've heard nothing about?

Not everything has a link and the internet isn't were I got the information, but if you want a link and don't care about the site. Here's a link for you since everyone has to have that special link.

As for the information It was a rumor at the Combine and the Panther's looked heavily at the 2nd and 3rd rated OT's in the draft.

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

An interesting team to keep an eye on in the first round of the 2012 NFL Draft is the Carolina Panthers. After enjoying a rebound season led by star rookie quarterback Cam Newton, the Panthers appear to be on the up as they go into year two under head coach Ron Rivera. In 2011, Carolina produced big point totals on a weekly basis, but struggled to stop anyone on the defensive side of the ball. As a result, they lost a lot of high scoring shootouts.

With the defense being a clear weakness, many have penciled in the Panthers to focus on the defensive side of the football with their first-round pick. That is definitely possible as they could use help at cornerback and defensive tackle. Even though Carolina has a huge need to upgrade the talent of their defense, they also could pursue an offensive tackle.

Left tackle Jordan Gross turns 32 this year, and Carolina has to start thinking of his long-term replacement. Jeff Otah has had a two-year knee injury and his long-term future is in question. The Panthers are optimistic that they won't be picking in the top half of the draft over the next few years, and they know that landing a franchise left tackle is very difficult to do in the later half of the first round. As a result, Carolina will consider Iowa tackle Riley Reiff and Stanford tackle Jonathan Martin.

Reiff is the more polished pass protector, while Martin is a much better run blocker. Right now, many believe that Reiff won't make to the Panthers pick at No. 8 or 9, but a lot can change in leading up the draft. Martin could start his career on the right side for Carolina and move over to left tackle after Gross calls it a career. If Carolina opts to pass on Martin or Reiff, they'll have a hole at tackle for years to come. Therefore, even though they badly need defensive help, this may be the time for them to add an offensive tackle who can protect Cam Newton through the prime years of his career.

[Actionman0z]

You mean, for at least a year, because I think next year there will be more OTs in the draft.

[carolina-chuck]

like it.

but dont show this mock to some people on here. they will come after you like piranhas. saying why an OL in the 9th like how they killed me taking a guard later in the second round. and cant take Hanna just bc he ran well at the combine

[koolkatluke]

The draft is top heavy for offensive players with better Defensive player depth. Also Captn sucks and I seriously think we could draft a player in the 4th round that gets him off the field. Hogan will do that this season.

We both hope so.

[koolkatluke]

Not everything has a link and the internet isn't were I got the information, but if you want a link and don't care about the site. Here's a link for you since everyone has to have that special link.

As for the information It was a rumor at the Combine and the Panther's looked heavily at the 2nd and 3rd rated OT's in the draft.

http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftrumormill.php

I like walterfootball for their mocks (sometime) and there breakdown of draft prospect. But their Rumor mill is mostly off.

Do you agree with their team needs for us?

http://walterfootball.com/offseason2012car.php

Offseason Needs:

1. Defensive Tackle: Carolina spent a pair of third-round picks last year on defensive tackles Sione Fua and Terrell McClain. Fua wasn't that bad as a rookie, but McClain was awful, constantly getting abused against the run. The Panthers could spend a second-rounder on someone like Brandon Thompson in April.

2. Cornerback: There are many reasons why the Panthers ranked dead last versus aerial attacks in terms of YPA (8.4). One of which is the cornerback position; they don't have anything across from Chris Gamble.

3. Strongside Linebacker: Can Thomas Davis ever stay healthy? He's played in just two games the past couple of seasons, thanks to his third-career torn ACL suffered in Week 2. Linebacker depth is also needed if Dan Connor departs via free agency.

4. Right Tackle: Jeff Otah has played in just four games the past two seasons because of knee and back injuries. He's unreliable, so if the Panthers don't believe he can stay healthy, they could use the No. 9 pick in the 2012 NFL Draft on Riley Reiff or Jonathan Martin. If not, they should use a later selection on insurance.

5. Two Safeties: Sherrod Martin played the worst game I've ever seen from a safety in a Week 17 loss at New Orleans. He can't be allowed to start again. Charles Godfrey isn't much better.

6. Right Guard: Geoff Hangartner performed well last year, but he's a free agent.

7. Wide Receiver: Steve Smith took the year off in 2010, but actually tried hard last season, proving that he can still perform on a high level. However, he turns 33 in May, so there could be a big decline coming. The Panthers need a new No. 2 receiver at the moment regardless.

8. Kicker: Olindo Mare, 39 in June, was just 22-of-28 (78.6%) in 2011.