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Opposing Line Coach Says Poe 'Took Plays Off'

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Marguide Newbie

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I agree that DL take plays off on occasion. It is not something rare or unusual. The same can be said for many positions on the field when the play is going elsewhere.

In Poe's defense (and no, I have not anointed him or anyone else as my favorite yet), the guy played damn near every snap. Rotational guys really have no excuse, but every-down players like Peppers or CJ do get tired. If they see the play is going elsewhere, they are going to let up to conserve energy.

I don't see it as a big deal in this case.

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mav1234 Grand Master

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I dunno, can we find any evidence on if that smile of his is face or not?

...alright, alright.

but seriously, while it is concerning on some level, and you want a guy to give it his all as often as possible, without actually seeing the games it's tough to judge. Was he doing it because he was exhausted? Exasperated? Did he just give up? Did he come into games flat? What was going on?

"Taking plays off" can mean a lot of things... and it's something we should be aware of, but I'm sure the Panthers can see that on film.

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Here's some more stuff on Poe from a scout from cbs sports..

Pass rush: Flashes exciting burst off the snap to penetrate. Can slip through gaps with his get-off and is an intimidating force for quarterbacks to avoid. Shows some natural balance and lateral agility to break down and chase the quarterback but has only phone booth quickness overall and is quickly left behind by mobile/alert passers. Shows a rip and swim move, but neither is particularly effective. Relies often on a simple bull rush but it is only marginally productive due to the fact that Poe routinely stands up at contact, losing leverage and negating his own strength. Does not possess an adequate secondary move if his initial burst is contained. Too often struggles to disengage with blockers smaller and weaker than him. Needs to do a better job of using his height to his advantage and present to the quarterback obstacles to throw around. Has only four passes defensed in his career, though to his credit three of them came in 2011.

Run defense: Shows the burst to split gaps and make the play on his own. Also has the ability to create a pile in the middle, even showing the ability to split the occasional double-team. However, is just as often blown off the ball due to his high pad level. Needs to do a better job of being the aggressor and tossing blockers aside to make the play rather than falling off blocks onto ballcarriers as they go by. Flashes good lateral agility to side-step blockers and can surprise you with his speed and effort in lateral pursuit. May struggle as a nose guard in the NFL due to shorter than ideal arms (31 5/8), especially considering his height. Good strength and balance to sit down, lock-out and create a pile, however, leading to possibilities inside and out (in the 3-4).

Explosion: Has an explosive burst off the line. Consistently among the first linemen moving at the snap. Generates power through his hips and can rock the offensive lineman back onto his heels with his initial surge. Gathers momentum quickly and can explode into the ballcarrier, showing the ability to separate the football (four forced fumbles over his career).

Strength: Possesses excellent weight-room strength, although it doesn't always translate onto his play due to his short arms and high pad level. Can wow you with his ability to push the pocket and drag down ballcarriers with just one arm but doesn't play with power consistently enough for a man with his talents.

Tackling: Surprisingly light on his feet and shows the ability to break down reasonably well to make the tackle in tight quarters against much smaller, quicker ballcarriers. Can knock ballcarriers to the ground with a good shove and latch-on, drag-down tackles while engaged, but also shows the ability to wrap securely, as well as enough explosiveness to force fumbles.

Intangibles: Given a second-round grade by the NFL Advisory Committee. Voted Team MVP and Defensive Player of the Year by his teammates. If Poe had returned for his senior season he would have been playing for his third head coach in four years.

--Rob Rang

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CRA Grand Master

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Don't give a poo. Fua was branded as a try hard motor guy when we drafted him and look how much he sucked. Talent is talent is talent, and Poe has that

Poe is athletic...how good of a football player he is remains the question. Being strong on a bench and running a 40 have never been what makes good football players. His ability makes him interesting based on what he could do....his play on the field won't make him BPA at #9...not even close

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CRA Grand Master

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Who cares if college players take plays off. The whole league is a joke. It would be like getting mad at Einstein because he didn't feel like doing a 3rd graders math homework.

what you think of Poe is heavily tied on where he is drafted...some want to take that component out of it and think a blanket opinion has to be formed.

Picking him at #9 or #24 would draw different thoughts on him as a Panther draft pick

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