Brockers vs Poe

[Munch4455]

I know the press isn't a deciding factor, but it bothers me that Brockers could only throw up 19. 18 DB's today put up more reps than Brockers did, at roughly 2/3 of his weight. Jstew put up 28. It's a lot about technique for a DT, but there are times where having that extra strength to hold an 2nd blocker for a second or two longer could really make a difference. They were talking on NFLN, and I agree, that your press number shows more about your work ethic than anything else. I dunno, just quite a few red flags for me on a guy I wasn't really high on to begin with.

[Ruff]

winning at Blinn is like beating us carolina huddle members in a flag football game. are you kidding me. its something to look with but to say that hurney drafted Cam bc of a division II or III national championship is ridiculous

What?

Blinn had the same talent as the teams they played, the only true difference in the teams was Cam. So, no, it's not like playing us in a flag football game. These guys actually go out, train, better themselves, are coached, and play as hard as possible.

I seriously doubt you would ever be able to make Blinn's team, much less any other DII team.

[carolina-chuck]

I also would like to throw Jerel Worthy into this discussion, if we're talking about taking someone who actually produced in college. Worthy destroyed Wisconsin's offensive line, which was widely considered to be one of the top five in college football last season, and had a very productive year.

yes i love worthy. but in my opinion hes not "worthy" enough to be pick at 9th. drafting a guy that high is on his skill set, performance through career, potential at the next level and his size

[pantherclaw]

I honestly don't know why there is so much hate for Poe.

So many on here act as if we're stating we'd only want Poe.

Both Brockers and Poe have high potential.

Dispite that many think our last year DT's were wasted picks, they weren't.

The Panthers won't draft another dt simply to throw another body at the position. Adding a blue chip player though, that i can see them doing.

Of the two, ya gotta love Poe's size, burst, strength, and ability.

He also fits the dt we need the most. He can play in both the 34 and the 43...which rivera wants to play both.

Both will take time to develop.

[carolina-chuck]

What?

Blinn had the same talent as the teams they played, the only true difference in the teams was Cam. So, no, it's not like playing us in a flag football game. These guys actually go out, train, better themselves, are coached, and play as hard as possible.

I seriously doubt you would ever be able to make Blinn's team, much less any other DII team.

im not saying i can make it did i? but if you watch and know. theres a major , "major" difference between the DI , DII, and DII skill set. trust me. jumping from jv to varsity in high school only , you could tell the huge difference. cam went to Blinn bc of his personal reason at Florida and Blinn was the only school that would take him. other than that he wouldve never even touch blinn.

and i know how good the next level is. my bro n law moved down from minnesota once played a high school game against Larry Fitzgerald. he was offer to go play at the high school army bowl game. got a DII scholarship as a walk on. and said it was intense, but nothing compare to a DI. im not a kid

[CatMan72]

I suspect Brockers ceiling is much higher, but he's also a bigger risk/reward guy then Poe. I think Poe will play in the NFL for many years and be a solid player, but Brockers has the potential to be an all-pro.

Personally, I would take Brockers simply because I believe he has a much higher ceiling. There's a reason why none of us have heard of Poe until now...

[Ruff]

im not saying i can make it did i? but if you watch and know. theres a major , "major" difference between the DI , DII, and DII skill set. trust me. jumping from jv to varsity in high school only , you could tell the huge difference. cam went to Blinn bc of his personal reason at Florida and Blinn was the only school that would took him. other than that he wouldve never even touch blinn

It's not that Blinn was "the only school that would take him". If you knew anything about college, you would know that Cam had to transfer to a DII school so that he could play the year and not have to sit out during his transfer. Cam could has easily have transferred to any college in America, it would have just taken a year of him sitting out, which he didn't want to do.

Thus, he transferred to Blinn, done his year, and transferred to whichever school that he wanted. Trust me, if no one would have wanted him, do you think that a school as prestigious as Auburn would have taken him on?

And no, I didn't say you said you could make it. You said that the talent level at Blinn was like "winning at Blinn is like beating us carolina huddle members in a flag football game." So, you said "us" Huddle members, which means that you were comparing your own talent to DII talent. Which is stupid.

[carolina-chuck]

I honestly don't know why there is so much hate for Poe.

So many on here act as if we're stating we'd only want Poe.

Both Brockers and Poe have high potential.

Dispite that many think our last year DT's were wasted picks, they weren't.

The Panthers won't draft another dt simply to throw another body at the position. Adding a blue chip player though, that i can see them doing.

Of the two, ya gotta love Poe's size, burst, strength, and ability.

He also fits the dt we need the most. He can play in both the 34 and the 43...which rivera wants to play both.

Both will take time to develop.

like many times, ill say it again. "I LOVE POE" but we cant draft him in the 9th spot due to his combine performance. if we are, im guessing we're the next oakland raiders v2.

[carolina-chuck]

It's not that Blinn was "the only school that would take him". If you knew anything about college, you would know that Cam had to transfer to a DII school so that he could play the year and not have to sit out during his transfer. Cam could has easily have transferred to any college in America, it would have just taken a year of him sitting out, which he didn't want to do.

Thus, he transferred to Blinn, done his year, and transferred to whichever school that he wanted. Trust me, if no one would have wanted him, do you think that a school as prestigious as Auburn would have taken him on?

And no, I didn't say you said you could make it. You said that the talent level at Blinn was like "winning at Blinn is like beating us carolina huddle members in a flag football game." So, you said "us" Huddle members, which means that you were comparing your own talent to DII talent. Which is stupid.

this conversation started somewhere from "potential" and i brought up that we took cam due to his potential. and we did take him due to his potential to be great and as our franchise qb . otherwise we wouldve took Dareus last year due to his "not potential" and nfl ready skill set on the spot from day 1. right? this cam this n that , DI DII DIII. whatever aint proving anything. so let it go man

[Ruff]

We drafted Cam because Hurney and Rivera felt like he had done enough in college to prove that he was ready for the NFL. The plan was obviously to play him from the beginning, especially after last preseason, showing that Rivera and Hurney both knew Cam's skill level was enough to warrant him being the number 1 pick.

Did potential have something to do with it? Yes, obviously. That's what the draft is about. But they had researched Cam enough to know that he was capable of handling the job, and was ready to take the job immediately, especially given our QB corp at the time.

[carolina-chuck]

We drafted Cam because Hurney and Rivera felt like he had done enough in college to prove that he was ready for the NFL. The plan was obviously to play him from the beginning, especially after last preseason, showing that Rivera and Hurney both knew Cam's skill level was enough to warrant him being the number 1 pick.

Did potential have something to do with it? Yes, obviously. That's what the draft is about. But they had researched Cam enough to know that he was capable of handling the job, and was ready to take the job immediately, especially given our QB corp at the time.

okay. we both agree on something. "potential" and "researches" are the key to addressing the draft. i apologize for not stating "research"

[nagai]

I wish I had more tape. After their respective combines, I went back to the little game film I had... and I still like Brockers more.

[Herbert The Love Bug]

He must be reading the huddle. I wrote that yesterday after watching him at the combine. :D

so did i.

[Herbert The Love Bug]

I wish I had more tape. After their respective combines, I went back to the little game film I had... and I still like Brockers more.

game film? youtube vids are game film now?