Brockers vs Poe

[Actionman0z]

No we didnt draft him on potential, he won two NCAA championships, and we researched him.

[carolina-chuck]

We're not going to take a defensive tackle in the first. Why? They have the highest bust rate of any other draft pick(other than QB), and Hurney has never taken a DT in the first. If anything we're going to be looking for value in the 2nd and take the best one available there imo.

hurney never took a DT in the first bc we never needed one this bad before. we should be glad we're at the right place (9th) at the right time this year with brockers, poe, worthy, still etc. especially with rivera as a d minded head coach, you think he wanna keep drafting Offense after last year Cam already. hired to be a D coach, his ass be on the hot seat if his D sucks again this year.

[carolina-chuck]

No we didnt draft him on potential, he won two NCAA championships, and we researched him.

Cam won "TWO national chapionship"? are you out of your mind?

being at Florida while The Golden Calf of Bristol won it for them doesnt mean Cam won two.

Do your research.

every teams draft on potential. why would we draft Smith also if it wasnt on his potential. hes 5'8" coming out the draft his rookie year. you kidding me

its just like someones going to give a huge ransom to st. Louis to take RGIII bc of his potetial to be a dual threat qb.

[Guest Bwood15]

Cam won "TWO national chapionship"? are you out of your mind?

being at Florida while The Golden Calf of Bristol won it for them doesnt mean Cam won two.

Do your research.

every teams draft on potential. why would we draft Smith also if it wasnt on his potential. hes 5'8" coming out the draft his rookie year. you kidding me

He did win two NCAA championships...one was with Blinn. Come on playboy.

[LinvilleGorge]

Reps can come after in the NFL weight room, but not great technique and skills.

A guy can't improve his technique and skills once in the NFL?

I lean toward Poe over Brockers simply because both are considered raw prospects who will primarily be drafted based on potential and athleticism. Poe tested out as the dramatically better athlete. So, if you're taking someone primarily on potential and athleticism, just go ahead and take the better athlete.

[CRA]

Cam won "TWO national chapionship"? are you out of your mind?

being at Florida while The Golden Calf of Bristol won it for them doesnt mean Cam won two.

Do your research.

every teams draft on potential. why would we draft Smith also if it wasnt on his potential. hes 5'8" coming out the draft his rookie year. you kidding me

its just like someones going to give a huge ransom to st. Louis to take RGIII bc of his potetial to be a dual threat qb.

Cam won 2 back to back (at different levels). There is no comparing one man wrecking crew like Cam in college to a guy who great athletic ability who has never shown it can translate into dominate football (even against weak opponents).

Steve Smith wasn't drafted to play WR. It is called getting lucky. He was drafted to be our special teams guy. He showed explosive ability at Utah in that department.

[CRA]

A guy can't improve his technique and skills once in the NFL?

I lean toward Poe over Brockers simply because both are considered raw prospects who will primarily be drafted based on potential and athleticism. Poe tested out as the dramatically better athlete. So, if you're taking someone primarily on potential and athleticism, just go ahead and take the better athlete.

and Brockers thus far has shown to be the better DT. If you are taking someone to play DT, why not the guy who has proven to do it better...and is raw w/ ability to get better.

[panthers55]

I just heard Michael Lombardi compare Poe to Kris Jenkins. If MH thinks so....

He must be reading the huddle. I wrote that yesterday after watching him at the combine. :D

[Ruff]

Cam won "TWO national chapionship"? are you out of your mind?

being at Florida while The Golden Calf of Bristol won it for them doesnt mean Cam won two.

Do your research.

every teams draft on potential. why would we draft Smith also if it wasnt on his potential. hes 5'8" coming out the draft his rookie year. you kidding me

its just like someones going to give a huge ransom to st. Louis to take RGIII bc of his potetial to be a dual threat qb.

Cam won one at Blinn and one at Auburn...

And the Steve Smith situation was a little different. He wasn't drafted in the first round, he definitely wasn't draft 9th overall, and he was drafted as a special teams player, where he showed that he could excel while he was at Utah.

[LinvilleGorge]

and Brockers thus far has shown to be the better DT. If you are taking someone to play DT, why not the guy who has proven to do it better...and is raw w/ ability to get better.

Debatable. I haven't seen enough of either individually to comment. But Brockers was definitely surrounded by far better talent than Poe.

Both guys have question marks and both guys have intriguing potential. I lean toward Poe, but laugh at the fanboy camps of both. If we take either, I'll be happy and hope for the best. Guys like Cox, Still, and Worthy have to be pissed about the attention these two are getting. All three have a ton more production at the college level while playing against good competition.

[carolina-chuck]

and Brockers thus far has shown to be the better DT. If you are taking someone to play DT, why not the guy who has proven to do it better...and is raw w/ ability to get better.

skills and technique can be improve but is not like going to the gym everyday. if you have the skills , youll have the skills. no body can teach lafell to hop 6 feet off the ground like Smitty. its call gifted skills set. and you judging Poe solely on combine performance. im judging brockers on his tape when comparing him to poe.

[panthers55]

and Brockers thus far has shown to be the better DT. If you are taking someone to play DT, why not the guy who has proven to do it better...and is raw w/ ability to get better.

Because college performance doesn't always translate into the same success in the pros. There are other factors that are as important or more so than stats in college.

With that said, I think Brockers will be fine for us and as he matures should be a good player. I also think if Poe is close to Kris Jenkins then he will be good for us as well. I don't think you can go wrong with either one. And before you ask, factors include scheme, coaching, competition, age and maturity, opportunity, and so forth.

[Ruff]

I also would like to throw Jerel Worthy into this discussion, if we're talking about taking someone who actually produced in college. Worthy destroyed Wisconsin's offensive line, which was widely considered to be one of the top five in college football last season, and had a very productive year.

[carolina-chuck]

Cam won one at Blinn and one at Auburn...

And the Steve Smith situation was a little different. He wasn't drafted in the first round, he definitely wasn't draft 9th overall, and he was drafted as a special teams player, where he showed that he could excel while he was at Utah.

winning at Blinn is like beating us carolina huddle members in a flag football game. are you kidding me. its something to look with but to say that hurney drafted Cam bc of a division II or III national championship is ridiculous

and yeah smith showing he could excel is like "showing he had potential"