Brockers vs Poe

[Udogg]

Hey im being truthful. They could pan out and become average players in the future for us but imagine if we took Culliver. Our CB problem would've been solve. Not saying I knew Culliver was going to be that good. But look, Kearse and Shirley were undrafted rookie free agents who came one and learn the playbook later, played better than both FUA and MCCLain. and now there's some rumors of how Rivera might wanna play more 3-4 . Whats the use of drafting two 43 DTs?

So basically you are saying hindsight is 20/20?

[carolina-chuck]

I think if we are truly looking to upgrade the DT position we should draft the best DT. Whether or not he can play different positions on the line would be a secondary at best concern.

I agree with you. I love POE also, but I'm not putting him ahead of Brockers anytime soon just because he bench 40 something reps and ran a LB's 40 yd time. Speed has nothing to do with being good in the NFL. Brockers has better technique than Poe, which will free him off blockers and make him much faster to the ball carrier than Poe.

[CRA]

I think the DT who repped 49 last year and had 4.8 40 speed went 45th overall... he wasn't as big but actually had good production in college.

[carolina-chuck]

So basically you are saying hindsight is 20/20?

if you wanna put it in that way. fua was our first pick in the third, where we knew we needed a cb also last year and could've have culliver right there instead of fua. wouldn't you right now if you could go back redo the draft take clliver over fua? it's not easy strucking gold by drafting two third rounders DTs.

[Guest Bwood15]

You know that there is a draft section, right? If you stopped by to check it out you might find that there are plenty of threads on the discussion on Poe vs. Brockers...

[carolina-chuck]

I think the DT who repped 49 last year and had 4.8 40 speed went 45th overall... he wasn't as big but actually had good production in college.

yeah if we took poe in the second Ill be all up for it. But not at 9th. With his performance in the combine, I believe he's a top 20 pick at most. Being able to put on a lot of reps doesn't mean you'll have good techniques. Reps can come after in the NFL weight room, but not great technique and skills.

[carolina-chuck]

You know that there is a draft section, right? If you stopped by to check it out you might find that there are plenty of threads on the discussion on Poe vs. Brockers...

Hey im just here to post up my opinion of the two. Not here to find dramas.

but why dont you go and tell all the others who posted thread like mine in here to move their crap to Draft section also. and i didnt see no brockers vs poe. when you find it let me know

[teeray]

I'm not in love with any DT in this draft.

I like most of you would love a big nasty in the middle of the d-line, I'm just not sure that guy is in this draft.

[LelouchBritannia]

We're not going to take a defensive tackle in the first. Why? They have the highest bust rate of any other draft pick(other than QB), and Hurney has never taken a DT in the first. If anything we're going to be looking for value in the 2nd and take the best one available there imo.

[rayzor]

I'm not in love with any DT in this draft.

I like most of you would love a big nasty in the middle of the d-line, I'm just not sure that guy is in this draft.

there's lots of DT talent in this draft class. no, there's not a suh or dareus but then we aren't drafting in the top 5 so it shouldn't be an issue. this isn't the bad/weak class some people think it is.

We're not going to take a defensive tackle in the first. Why? They have the highest bust rate of any other draft pick(other than QB), and Hurney has never taken a DT in the first. If anything we're going to be looking for value in the 2nd and take the best one available there imo.

lame excuse. you recruit right and you coach right and you reduce your chances of busting.

other than QB...guess that means we should have esp. avoided QB at first overall last year. quite a few in here bought that crap. funny that many of those thought we should use that pick on a "safer" position like DT.

just because there have been busts at a certain position in the past doesn't mean that they are doomed to repeat. history doesn't have to repeat itself. you see mistakes made in how situations were handled and you do it better.

if they believe DT to be a huge need and something that they believe will help the defense as a whole (both of which is true) and they have a prospect they think has a lot to work with and that can be coached then they take that guy and screw the odds.

[teeray]

there's lots of DT talent in this draft class. no, there's not a suh or dareus but then we aren't drafting in the top 5 so it shouldn't be an issue. this isn't the bad/weak class some people think it is.lame excuse. you recruit right and you coach right and you reduce your chances of busting.

If there is a lot of talent in this DT class but no Suh or Dareus don't waste a top 10 pick on one. Get one of those talented guys in the 2nd or 3rd round (again lol)

[Ivan The Awesome]

Fua n McCLain are a joke. Two waisted picks where we could've took Cb Chris Culliver .

..yeah, first year players are supposed to produce staggering numbers.. They are not wasted picks. They aren't 1st round talent. But being picked in the third was justified. Also, giving a player one year to develop is plain stupid.

[carolina-chuck]

..yeah, first year players are supposed to produce staggering numbers.. They are not wasted picks. They aren't 1st round talent. But being picked in the third was justified. Also, giving a player one year to develop is plain stupid.

i can say that both of them fua n mcclain are not going to be very good at the end of the day when their careers are over. were you not watching the same carolina team i was last year bc from what i seen, i surely saw no hope in the two of them. i liked kearse n shirely a whole lot more than those other two third rounders.

Corey Irvin was a third rounder. what happend? wasted pick. in the NFL, if you want a real DT, you better find it in the 1st round. and that goes to almost every position in the NFL except kicker n punter

[carolina-chuck]

there's lots of DT talent in this draft class. no, there's not a suh or dareus but then we aren't drafting in the top 5 so it shouldn't be an issue. this isn't the bad/weak class some people think it is.lame excuse. you recruit right and you coach right and you reduce your chances of busting.

other than QB...guess that means we should have esp. avoided QB at first overall last year. quite a few in here bought that crap. funny that many of those thought we should use that pick on a "safer" position like DT.

just because there have been busts at a certain position in the past doesn't mean that they are doomed to repeat. history doesn't have to repeat itself. you see mistakes made in how situations were handled and you do it better.

if they believe DT to be a huge need and something that they believe will help the defense as a whole (both of which is true) and they have a prospect they think has a lot to work with and that can be coached then they take that guy and screw the odds.

bump. i totally agree