If we want a NT- look no further than Dontari Poe

[CPF4LIFE]

I liked him boosting his stock for the fact that it betters our chances of getting one of them.

[pantherclaw]

If the Panthers don't get a blue chip defensive tackle (one that can be a top 5 at his position), then i don't see the panthers drafting another young DT at all.

Who cares about the 40 time. That's not what is most impressive about poe.

It's how the guy moves. How he carries his weight. How fluid he is when he is moving.

His split is one of the best, especially considering his size.

He quick, strong, and very coachable. He is definately worthy of the 9th overall pick.

[Sloth]

I see you point. We will see how the draft unfolds, you really never know tis early.

My point was that you can point out things about one player without having the agenda a pimping another. You can think that Poe is this or that and it having nothing to do with your opinion about Brokers.

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't really care who we draft specifically. Hurney is typically money in the first and Rivera has been a stud crafting defenses wherever he's been, so I'm not much worried about the pick.

I just want to improve our pass rush. DT, DE, LB, draft, FA, Brockers, Poe, Still, Jarrett from Subway, whatever. Improve the pass rush.

[jtnc]

From Warren Sapp

Hands down, Dontari Poe is the defensive lineman who jumps out at me after watching Monday’s workouts at the NFL Scouting Combine.

Hands down. All 346 pounds of the big fella.

Can you believe he ran the 40-yard dash in 4.98 seconds? Poe looks like a refrigerator. He’s not supposed to move like that.

The most impressive part was his first 10 yards. He showed some explosiveness, and forgive me for saying this, but I saw a little bit of myself in him.

Poe aside, though, this is an interesting class of D-linemen. This group out-ran the draft class from two years ago featuring Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy. They were blazing for big guys, and that might have some teams reaching in the draft.

You’ve got Michael Brockers, who a lot of teams seem to love. But I have questions, because he doesn’t have much experience. He passes the eyeball test, but there isn’t a body of work. You almost think that if he stayed in school for his senior year, he could’ve easily been the No. 1 DT next year. Brockers didn’t blow my mind today, so he’ll have to get going at his pro day.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/02/27/sapp-teams-could-reach-for-d-linemen-poe-the-real-deal/?campaign=Twitter_combine

[rayzor]

Not true at all. What it means that the combine helped clarify some things that they were not clear about. Look at Chris Johnson a few years ago. He was listed as a second or third rounder but blew it up in the combine and was taken number 17 by Tennessee. That seemed to work out pretty well until Tennessee decided not to pay him. Also note that people had him as their 4th or 5th best DT, not 25th. Moving up from 5th to 2nd for example is not that huge.

The combine helps players from smaller schools shine and compete on the same stage. Do you think anyone knew how strong Poe was or how weak some other guys were? Remember that these underclassmen don't get the press or publicity of upperclassmen. The combine opened some eyes.

Now expect guys to go back and watch Poe's games with renewed interest. What he may lack is not ability but lack of supporting talent and coaching. As a junior he was just coming into his own.

it might change the perpsective on a couple guys or give a reason to look a bit closer, but as far as flipping completely your rankings because of the combine...i just don't see it. pro scouts/GMs/coaches just don't put that much stock into it.

i i posted this in another thread...

dpbrugler Remember: #NFLCombine small part of eval process. One scout told me 80/20 game film over pre-draft process. Another told me 90/10 #NFLDraft

[rayzor]

From Warren Sapp

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/02/27/sapp-teams-could-reach-for-d-linemen-poe-the-real-deal/?campaign=Twitter_combine

agreed about brockers, but i think that was probably the case anyway for him and for poe. what they did at the combine might/night not impress teams, but what will do them the most good is what happens at their pro day and, much more importantly, at individual workouts and interviews with teams.

since there isn't a whole lot of film on these guys or a ton of experience and both are so raw, teams are going to have to work with them to see how coachable they are. to see what their base of talent and knowledge is and see if they are capable of reaching their potential.

i wouldn't close the door on brockers based on what he did (or didn't do) at the combine and i wouldn't call the poe the obvious best DT in the class because of what he did there as well.

i think what poe did successfully is grant himself a good few more interviews and private meetings/workouts with teams. the combine is more useful as a cover letter than anything. for players that are trying to gain attention from teams this is their chance to get that attention. for players who have already garnered a lot of attention from teams and have already lined up those interviews it just isn't all that important.

[Lout]

Don't really like Poe much with a #9 overall pick. He has a lot of potential.. but he is very raw. I like Cox from Miss St a lot.. I think Brockers is still is the top DT on the board. The combine is not the primary source of scouting for NFL personel people. It is simply a tool to confirm what you see on the game film. Yes, Poe made some extra money today.. but he probably was going to be a low 1st round pick before the combine, and made a 10 spot increase. He is a Top20-25 pick now.. not Top10.

A lot of casual fans put too much stock in the combine.

[frash.exe]

From Warren Sapp

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/02/27/sapp-teams-could-reach-for-d-linemen-poe-the-real-deal/?campaign=Twitter_combine

wow warren sapp sure is insightful, look how in the midst of critiquing brockers he doesn't realize he'd be a redshirt junior next season

[rayzor]

wow warren sapp sure is insightful, look how in the midst of critiquing brockers he doesn't realize he'd be a redshirt junior next season

yeah, i thought that was kind of funny.

[carpanfan96]

Cox and Poe jumped Brockers, Poe I think moved himself into the top 15. Same with Cox, a few draft guys had Cox rated as the #1 DT. Poe killed it today and he looks good with a horrible Dline at Memphis.

[koolkatluke]

The only things I don't like about Poe is the short arms and will he have Weight issues being that big.

[panthers55]

it might change the perpsective on a couple guys or give a reason to look a bit closer, but as far as flipping completely your rankings because of the combine...i just don't see it. pro scouts/GMs/coaches just don't put that much stock into it.

i i posted this in another thread...

Sure scouts GMs and coaches value the combine, that is why they are all there. But they look forward to the interviews, chalk talk and watching how they handle themselves in addition to the workouts. The drills are just 1 part of the combine much of which the fans don't get to see. But as I said you may rise fron the 4th or 5th best DT up to 2nd or 1st. No one vaults from undrafted to the first round. But then again, no one said they would................

[panthers55]

The only things I don't like about Poe is the short arms and will he have Weight issues being that big.

Poe has 32 inch arms and Kris jenkins had 33 inch arms so what is the big deal?? Also he is a weight room junkie so why would he be fat or have trouble controlling his weight?? At 350 he looks prettyy athleetic and muscular.

Here was Kris Jenkins combine numbers which Poe beat across the board.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=60334&draftyear=2001&genpos=

[teeray]

As for why haven't we heard about Poe this year, remember that the combine is designed to put everyone on the same playing field for comparison purposes. It lets a guy like Poe who played on a crappy Memphis team to compete with Brockers who got much more press. Seems a few years ago another C-USA player, Chris Johnson, came into the combine and blew it up. He showed he could compete with the big boys. Poe just made his case today.

It is funny that you say this about Poe but when it came to Stephen Hill you told me there was a reason no one had heard of him and it was because he wasn't that good.

So if I understand you correctly a guy like Poe who was a second team all conference guy in Conference-USA needs the combine to be compared to other players that are more well known. However, a receiver that was handicapped by playing in a flexbone option doesn't get the same right to compare against better known wide receivers at the combine because he only had 28 catches at GT. :p

I am intrigued by Poe but the only truly good competition he played against was Miss State and he was supposedly on the ground the whole game. It is hard to know how good he can be because he didn't play against elite offensive linemen. Normally being from a smaller conference doesn't bother me EXCEPT when they are on either side of the line. Doesn't mean he won't be a really great player, after all Jordan Gross is really good, but it is harder to evaluate them when you watch them because the talent level in the trenches isn't the same.

I was very impressed with Poe today though. He was a beast and was incredibly athletic for his size.