Comparing QB Robert Griffin III to Cam Newton draws laughs from NFL talent evaluators

[YoungPanthers89]

Rg III-k

[Arnie]

Rg III-k

That's It!!

[Jangler]

maybe the second coming of Andre 3000.

RGIII needs to get back with Outkast and make another Album...........

So tired of hearing about him. I think he is gonna be a Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust.

come on mayne!

[Delhommey]

4.38?!

Holy Shiva!

[ed bell]

Very impressive indeed.

[footballisasport]

4.38?!

Holy Shiva!

But since Cam is now the standard of which these QBs are judged...Luck ran Cam's time opf 4:59, so he won that comparison battle. At least with the NFLN folks.

[King Taharqa]

RG3's speed is gonna be a problem on the next level.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

just like cam, if rgiii continues to develop as a passer, the sky is the limit

luck is gonna be the bust i think

[Mage]

Griffin isn't as agile as Newton. Griffin reminds me of Alex Smith (not in a bad way). Very good straight line speed but won't be all that useful in the pros. Same with Peyton - a lot of people forget he ran a 4.8.

Don't get me wrong, Griffin will still make teams have to respect his running ability. But I think Newton, despite running a worse 40, will always be a better runner at this level than Griffin will be.

[footballisasport]

I liked Blaine Gabbert because he went to Missouri, I don't give a poo what the media said about him. Go ahead, keep throwing out bullpoo you're totally wrong about. I didn't even WANT to draft Gabbert, and I liked him as a player and still think he can be good some place but I never seriously wanted him to be a Panther. Doesn't that tell you something? Of course, you don't read my posts so you'd never remember that I said there was an alumni connection in my family to Missouri that made me follow them and made me like Gabbert. Nor would you even have any idea i vehemently opposed the idea of drafting a quarterback, even though I liked Gabbert.

Gabbert was NEVER some chosen one after the draft, from his first preseason game he's looked bad and he has taken tons of heat for it, yet you continue to harp on the bullpoo about how he's some chosen one. He's not. Mayock liked him more, big deal... even Mayock liking him more didn't think we'd take him #1, nor did he think he was worth #1.

As to this other stuff about RG3 vs Luck, I think they're both going to be great players and I don't get why people in "one camp" or the other act like it's some "either or" thing. Just because Luck is considered the better prospect doesn't mean RG3 is bad.

My point was/is, why are we told who is great or who should be the the next face of a franchise without them proving themselves. These QBs spend years working hard and doing their best to get to the NFL only to have a bunch of men in the sports media dictate their future in the NFL depending on their preference.

It's not about Cam, nor RG III. It's about the ALL QBs who were underscored or whose mistakes was maginified 1000 times so the Blaines, Lucks, Bradfords, and Staffords of the QB world could look good.

When I see Cam being told that no matter what he does, he will be scrutinized to the max; while someone like Blaine is barely touched despite them both vying for the same spot, annoys the fug out of me. When Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert end their rookie season with almost the same QB stats, despite Christian starting two to three games after Blaine but Blaine have all levels of excuses made for his bad rookie performance while Christian's QB ability is questioned, that bothers the heck out of me.

When Mark Sanchez every move has been scrutinized by the so called experts sine he came into the NFL the same season as Matt Stafford. He has taken the Jets deep into the play-offs every season since he's turned pro but last season, yet his QB abilities are always being questioned. Yet, the "media chosen" Matt Stafford, after finally playing a full season injury free gets tons of praises for taking the Lions to the play-off and couldn't even get pass the first round. We won't even get into the "media chosen" Sam Bradford and all his issues...see Blain Gabbert's excuses his profile.

And now we have Luck, the "best QB to come along in 34 years." The damn guy didn't even play as well as he played his season before. He was the chosen QB for the Heisman Award and had it taken away twice from QBs who came out of nowhere according to the media. Yet, like Sam Bradford, Matt Stafford, Blaine Gabbert, he will be placed firmly on top of a throne and told by his worshippers that he cannot be touched by anyone unless those in the media say so.

In the meantime, QBs like Cam, RG III, Andy Dalton, Christian Ponder, Mark Sanchez, Jake Locker and countless other just as talented QBs are told that their NFL careers are only as good as their first seriously bad game.

For what it's worth Peyton is not better than Tom Brady. Yet Brady is the one with the better career. Peyton is just the "media chosen" QB who is about to get replaced by another "media chosen" QB. Sad.

[Black]

Cam VS RGIII:

Probably already posted somewhere, but I thought it was pretty cool.

[footballisasport]

Griffin isn't as agile as Newton. Griffin reminds me of Alex Smith (not in a bad way). Very good straight line speed but won't be all that useful in the pros. Same with Peyton - a lot of people forget he ran a 4.8.

Don't get me wrong, Griffin will still make teams have to respect his running ability. But I think Newton, despite running a worse 40, will always be a better runner at this level than Griffin will be.

In the looks and charm deparment, Cam got both RG III and Luck beat by miles.

[footballisasport]

Cam VS RGIII:

Probably already posted somewhere, but I thought it was pretty cool.

You can tell RG III is a track runner, he keeps his head down for quite a while and sticks it out at the end...Dead give away...:D

I also had to LOL because NFLN jus showed Eisen, Luck, Cam and RG III races simultaniously. they even gave Eisen a head start..

[mav1234]

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I don't think you understand how an evaluation process works. The reason Ponder, Dalton, Sanchez, Locker, Cam, RG3, etc, may not be thought of as being as good as Luck coming out of college was because they did not display the same consistency in skill set that NFL talent evaluators were looking for. Nobody has said that Luck doesn't need to play, just that they are very impressed with him coming out. Many have said the same of RG3 this year. The reason many of those other guys dropped was things like height, arm strength, etc. Cam didn't drop, but he was controversial for what I think are relatively obvious reasons, even if they were overblown by the media. None of those other guys you list were anything like that, but you could point at Mallett as a guy who took a ton of heat and maybe dropped for it.

You don't need to listen to people who voice their opinion. It's your choice to decide to feel deceived/betrayed that Gabbert wasn't as good as Mayock said or whatever it is that is motivating you to harp on about him.

Gabbert was in no way the "chosen one" like Luck was, fwiw, and I think it's ridiculous you are comparing them. Luck has been the top prospect for two years, Gabbert was one of the top quarterbacks, but nobody had him rated #1 overall. Nobody, even those who really liked him. The difference was in where people thought Cam fit.

Also, where did you hear that Luck "had his heisman taken away"? Was that language actually used? He didn't play as well this year as last for a number of reasons, one of which was that his coach left. Yet he still played extremely well and lifted that team. The entire reason Luck IS the consensus #1 this year is because he has had two great years in addition to all of his strong fundamentals, perfect height/weight, great athleticism, etc.

RE: the speed thing, obviously RG3's speed is the better speed but what the commentators meant was that Luck's speed was fast enough to make him a threat to scramble. I don't know about the NFLN group but ESPN really liked RG3's speed (go check at the front page of the NFL)