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LB Vontaze Burfict

Piracy 23

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You have much shorter arms than Kevin, most basketball players can't benchpress much and don't want to. I'm 6'3 220 and and focus on lean muscle much like a basketball player does. I would rather have quickness and finesse than brute force. It looks better too

I love me some brute force. I'm a tank. It is awkward for the wife when I need help wiping my ass though. Luckily the shower is like two steps from my master toilet.

In all seriousness though, when I'm on a cycle and training, 330 isn't uncommon and after a cycle when I cut the fat, I'm pretty much as lean as it gets. Benchpress isn't my only thing, in fact I rarely do it. I do flys when I work chest much more than I do bench. I just found it funny that an aspiring NFL LB can't do 225 15 times if what the OP said is true.

I don't get to play as many "athletic" (ie football, basketball) sports as I used to, so I'm not as worried about that stuff. I have a buddy that just got his masters in Kinesiology though, and he's moving back into my neighborhood and said he will train me on an uber-badass plyometrics program too, so that should be fun for me. I went into a Gracie Jui-Jitsu studio that is a few miles from my house but I just can't afford that poo. No I don't have any MMA dreams or anything like that, just thought it'd be a fun way to train, but they want your first born to do even a halfway decent program.

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mayock's draft thoughts from today will probably be posted elsewhere soon, but here's his thoughts on burfict...

LesBowen Mayock unimpressed with Vontaze Burfict, even putting penalty issue aside. Gets enveloped, not great instincts, not first rounder.
JonathanTamari Mayock - as others noted - compared Kuechly to Cowboys Sean Lee; says Burfict makes nice highlight hits, but is not consistent
evansilva Mayock says he just put on Vontaze Burfict's tape, forgetting about off-field & penalties. And Burfict was an unimpressive football player.
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:lol: from albert breer this morning...

AlbertBreer Looks like the word is out on Arizona State LB Vontaze Burfict, who'll have serious image recovery work to do when he gets to Indy ...

... When I did a mock last month, initially had Burfict at end of Round 1. Sent it to 6 or 7 personnel guys. All told me to take Burfict out

... One of these execs thought I was particularly crazy for having him at 31 or 32, and called Burfict a "fake tough guy." Ouch.

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I understand where most people are coming from on this. I'm a guy that just really look at players from an attitude and talent stand point. You don't have to lift all those weights to be a great player. It's all about good conditioning and strengthing the core parts of the body. I really can see Vontaze falling out the first round, if i'm the panthers with my second round pick I will take a long hard look at him. There is no doubt that the guy can't ball out. He just has other issues. Guy's like Beason and James Anderson can really get this kid right and we could have a real dynamic LB corp.

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I understand where most people are coming from on this. I'm a guy that just really look at players from an attitude and talent stand point. You don't have to lift all those weights to be a great player. It's all about good conditioning and strengthing the core parts of the body. I really can see Vontaze falling out the first round, if i'm the panthers with my second round pick I will take a long hard look at him. There is no doubt that the guy can't ball out. He just has other issues. Guy's like Beason and James Anderson can really get this kid right and we could have a real dynamic LB corp.
but see here's the problem, his lack of talent is being exposed. so is his "killer" attitude. called a "fake tough guy"? :lol:

add to that the number of penalties and he sounds more like a cheap shot artist with a pissy attitude than anything.

comparison to suh and james harrison should not be made. just because he gets a lot of penalties and personal foul calls doesn't make him their kind of player.

people got too caught up in that hype and it's being seen for what it is. people are taking a long hard look at him and this is the kind of stuff they are seeing.

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