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Building my first gaming rig

stankowalski

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i've pretty much stated 30x in this thread that you should swap out the psu asap.

i7 is overkill the way dual core was once overkill

also i like how you pick a rosewill case for the i7 and accuse thermaltake of being chinese

as far as the rebates go, i've never even been able to get anyone to accept them. i ignore them.

you're relying on mail in rebates to get the prices in line, and then you have 3 hours of assembly and installation ahead of you.

so go ahead, take the risk of bending a pin on your processor

and ordering from 5 different sources...pass

i7 is overkill because an i5 2500k performs exactly the same as it in gaming. i7 has hyperthreading which no games take advantage of.

The Challenger is actually a pretty good budget case, don't knock it. I don't know what model the thermaltake is so I didn't list it. I also didn't call it chinese, I called the psu chinese. Prefab psus are usually like 300w chinese pieces of crap.

Rebates take time but generally get approved. 3 hours? Hardly. You can source all the parts from newegg for around the same price. Pcpartpicker just lists the lowest price from several websites, not that there is anything wrong from ordering from separate stores. Bending a CPU pin? Are you kidding me? I've replaced CPUs many times and have never bent a pin. You have to be mentally handicapped to do that.

Like I said: Most of the parts in a prefab will be skimped on. The RAM will not be Corsair/G Skill. The PSU will be terrible. (Which to replace as you suggest you're spending at least another 80-100 dollars, more to sli/xfire in the future.) There's no guarantee the mobo is sourced from a reputable brand. The CPU will likely have a stock cooler, so it will run hot. The video card might be a pooty brand.

Lastly, my build is above what the usual cost is for a few reasons.

1) Hard drive prices are high, knock 50 bucks off for when they go back down.

2) I added Windows. Pirate it, knock off another 100 bucks.

You can even order the parts off Amazon and use a coupon for X off on orders over X and save even more. Building your own pc is superior for so many reasons.

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i7 is overkill because an i5 2500k performs exactly the same as it in gaming. i7 has hyperthreading which no games take advantage of.

hexcore gaming is coming. i was told when i bought my machine LOL NO GAMES USES 2 CORES DUDE

i don't buy or upgrade for the moment, i do it with an eye to the future, which is what makes an i5 even more laughable. sure it will run the hell out of bf3, but what about bf6?

The Challenger is actually a pretty good budget case, don't knock it. I don't know what model the thermaltake is so I didn't list it. I also didn't call it chinese, I called the psu chinese. Prefab psus are usually like 300w chinese pieces of crap.

800w psu in that build, but yes, its poo most likely.

Rebates take time but generally get approved. 3 hours? Hardly. You can source all the parts from newegg for around the same price. Pcpartpicker just lists the lowest price from several websites, not that there is anything wrong from ordering from separate stores. Bending a CPU pin? Are you kidding me? I've replaced CPUs many times and have never bent a pin. You have to be mentally handicapped to do that.

i have never gotten a rebate back from any of the reputable companies i've dealt with, like sapphire, so i don't even bother looking for them anymore. if you build that machine with newegg only, you're looking at another 100$ or more easily.

we're talking about someone that has never built a pc, and i'm going to assume has never upgraded or removed/installed a processor, so yes, bending a pin is a possibility

and assembly of the tower, installation of OS can easily take 3 hours or longer

and then you have to track down drivers for your hardware.

Like I said: Most of the parts in a prefab will be skimped on. The RAM will not be Corsair/G Skill. The PSU will be terrible. (Which to replace as you suggest you're spending at least another 80-100 dollars, more to sli/xfire in the future.) There's no guarantee the mobo is sourced from a reputable brand. The CPU will likely have a stock cooler, so it will run hot. The video card might be a pooty brand.

most skimped parts are just rebranded anyway. that's all rosewill does is rebrands. there's less of a need for sli/xfire than there is an 8 core processor.

as far as the quality of the ram, if you sat down beside two machines with the exact same specs, you wouldn't be able to tell me which had the corsair ram in it and which had bargain brand, since the bargain brand is most likely rebranded anyway, the same way motorolla made every single pager in the 90s

Lastly, my build is above what the usual cost is for a few reasons.

1) Hard drive prices are high, knock 50 bucks off for when they go back down.

2) I added Windows. Pirate it, knock off another 100 bucks.

You can even order the parts off Amazon and use a coupon for X off on orders over X and save even more. Building your own pc is superior for so many reasons.

yeah, i don't take advice from anyone that suggests pirating an OS.

i don't have a problem with anyone building their own computer. i do however consider it irresponsible to suggest to someone that has never done the required hardware modifications that constitute a build to build their own computer

you know, the kind of person that doesn't know laptops and desktops use two different kind of ram or that the higher powered videocards must be plugged into the mobo. if someone shows up on a football forum asking if they should build their own pc, the most likely answer is no. get a solid prebuilt at a good price, and make modifications to it as you go along. when you're comfortable, build your own pc.

like i said, the real benefit is having a warranty for individual components.

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when you're comfortable, build your own pc.

You can't get comfortable unless you take some steps. Maybe adding something to a current pre-built or something. Lots of reading before you undertake the build will help.

But you have to start somewhere.

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i've seen more poorly built computers than i have well built computers.

get a solid prebuilt at a good price, and make modifications to it as you go along. when you're comfortable, build your own pc.

so now you're talking about adding hours of research on top of it all

yeah, you do have to start somewhere, but if you've never so much as swapped out a stick of ram, or a video card, or even know what a pci-e is, you shouldn't be building a computer

swapping out a psu would be a good start, its one of the more complex assembly procedures, but instead of having to start out with a blank slate, you can just swap one connection at a time to make sure everything is properly connected and nothing is left out

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