Pat White in the second round for Panthers?

[Squirrel]

I'd love White if we got a 1st and 2nd for Pepps....I think he needs a year or two in the league to become a successful NFL QB

I agree atleast 2 year. He does need to bulk up just a few more pounds think he is at 205 right now from 189 at the carcarebowl. He also needs to work on his reads. If we can use him as PR and in the Wildcat with Denagelo and Stewart the first year that would be great. But his second year needs to be strictly QB.

[Zaximus]

Pat White = Reggie Bush. He can do everything except play his actual position.

What a dumb post.

White did what his team needed, and when he was GIVEN the chance to be a QB he excelled. Get out of here with your regurgitated comments you got from the smack board. You want to bash a guy for doing what his coach and team wanted of him? ( and winning ).

[Panthro]

His ability to extend a play means more to me than his scrambling ability. Rothelisdorker aint a scrambler but his ability to extend a play is one of the reasons for their success (not discounting their D at all)

[Zaximus]

His ability to extend a play means more to me than his scrambling ability. Rothelisdorker aint a scrambler but his ability to extend a play is one of the reasons for their success (not discounting their D at all)

It would give us a weapon and instead of being the terribly predictable team we usually we will frustrate some defenses.

[Woodie]

Hes one of the best College QBs of all time. He can play his actual position if he is given the chance to.

I'm not going to get into this arguement about whether or not Pat White can be a QB in the NFL since I have not watched him enough to give an educated opinion. However, I will respond to the point of this post.

If he can play QB at the NFL level he will be given a chance. It's as simple as that. QB is the most important position in the NFL, and one of the hardest to find quality at. So, if he has the ability, every single team would give him a chance. Nobody is going to blow off a possible starting caliber QB, just to force him as a WR or whatever.

[DOUBLETROUBLE28]

The Golden Calf of Bristol 2010

[rayzor]

Pat White = Reggie Bush. He can do everything except play his actual position.

where are you getting this notion that he can't play his position?

he threw 21 TDs and had only 7 INTs.

he had a 65.7 completion percentage (16th in NCAA last year) and a QB rating of 142.41. What about that says he can't play his position. He was considered to have the best performance of any of the QBs at the combine.

he has won games and scored points by both running but mostly through passing. 56 passing TDs in his college career. INTs? 26. He's pretty efficient. as a passer. 781 passing attempts and 507 completions. Not sure if you are following this but he threw a TD once every 14 passes and one of every 9 completions was for a TD. That is pretty freaking good.

He was a legit passer and did it plenty enough for anyone paying attention to see the guy knows how to play QB.

The fact that he can run and do that well for some reason makes people think that he can't do the other. He can do both and do it well enough to win games. The fact that he chooses to run as much as he does doesn't mean that he can't pass. It means that he takes advantage of every opportunity he has and makes something happen. IF it results in us getting downfield and getting a TD...i don't care how it's done.

Vick was an enigma but he was more of a one trick pony. His passing was his weakness. He just wasn't all that good at that. He was an incredible athlete the likes of which we had never seen but once we found out how to contain him (which was something that took a good few years to do and influenced our 1st round pick in 2005) he became containable.

What would make White more dangerous is that he can throw and does it when needed. He is accurate and can read the field well. He can do it efficiently. His height won't be anymore of a disadvantage for him than it is for Brees. If you have good field vision and good decision making abilities you can make it happen and that is what he has. If there isn't a man open or there is a hole somewhere, he's going to take off. Those that try and anticipate the run are going to get burned on the pass.

The fact that teams are wanting him to play WR shows a couple things that people are reading wrongly into this. He is flat out a big playmaker and that has never been questioned. QBs generally have to wait a couple years before they are ready to take the field. They aren't really good at anything but being a QB. White can make an impact at any position he plays and teams would want him because they would want someone who can start making the big plays for them right away.

Why he isn't being seen as an earlier pick is because he decided he only wanted to be a QB. Imo, that was a mistake. Any team that gets him is going to be able to see that he will be deadly wherever he is and would most likely give him plenty of opportunities to play QB. He would be a wildcat package phenomenon. I heard he backed off of that but you know that teams have to be chomping at the bit to get someone like him who can do it all. He will go earlier than what most people think. He'll be the 4th QB off the board and will go early 2nd.

[mantal]

The Golden Calf of Bristol 2010

God, I hope not!...

[Squirrel]

God, I hope not!...

For FB.

[rayzor]

God, I hope not!...

there's about 4 or 5 other QBs that could be coming out next year i would rather have than The Golden Calf of Bristol....though even then i wouldn't hate it.

[X-Clown]

Mike Vick isnt an awesome QB, but he's better than most on this board give him credit for and he's better than Matt Ryan and you can quote me again on that. Mike Vick takes his team to an NFCG, gives defenses headaches for 5 years, beats us 6 times, and he's garbage. Matt Ryan simply just makes the playoffs and wins ROY (like Vince Young, hmmm) and he's suddenly the annointed one. LOL.

He took a team that was expected to finish last in the NFC South and he helped take them to the playoffs and put up a better QB rating in his first season than Vick did in any season with the same receivers. The same receivers who supposedly sucked and were the reason that Vick wasn't dominating the NFL.

And again, you can't make up your mind... you want the QB to put up pretty stats in a later post, but you're arguing here that where a quarterback gets you matters. Jake's done more than Vick, but you would probably rather have Vick in a Panthers uniform starting behind center next season. Same for VY. You defend both of these guys but give Matt Ryan or Jake Delhomme no credit (hmmmm).

D tackle or D End is the safe pick. Playing it "safe" hasnt brought any rings to Carolina yet.

There's a difference between safe and smart. Our franchise has taken risks before aka Sean Gilbert, Jeff Lewis, and they haven't worked out so well. They took a risk last year by trading this year's first rounder and moving up to improve the offense, a gamble which paid off. But at the same time the defense slipped, and it's obvious we are going to have to improve that side of the ball if we are going to win anything.

And the All World D-End you already have doesnt want to be here anymore partly because he doesnt believe in the QB you already have now.

Excuse my french, but that is probably the biggest bunch of fuging horsepoo argument I've ever seen posted on this board and that's saying something given the weekly threads of changing to a 3-4, and trolls from other boards popping in. Find me one article or link from a Peppers quote that says anything close to that, and I'll rescind my statement. Otherwise, you're talking straight out of your rectum on this one.

Do you really believe we cant get a QB in here who can throw more than 15 TDs next year? Do you really believe that Pat White's ability to extend plays and sustain drives wouldnt be valuable to our offense? Do you really believe Pat White would not energize this fanbase? Jersey sales, upside, national attention, etc, its a no brainer!

I don't care how the TDs are scored as long as we are putting up the points. I said this in another thread but if Jake throws five 1 yard TDs instead of our running backs doing it on the one yard line for us, why does that make a difference if our offense is successful??? As far as White goes, given that you and I are not scouts and given that he hasn't played a snap in the NFL, how can you be so sure that all of the things you have said apply?

[goodlay]

White is like Devin Hester, he'll make plays no doubt, but for the people who think he'll be a successful QB in the NFL, you're mistaken. Hester can't play his natural position of CB very well at all, so much so that he was transitioned to a WR. All this stuff about White being our solution is pretty ridiculous. Yeah, he'd be a nice playmaker for kick returns and some trick plays on offense, but does that warrant a 2nd round selection? Absolutely not. He reminds me of a slightly better Seneca Wallace. The NFL is a completely different game, and it usually isn't kind to guys like Pat White.

[Kurb]

I don't see how people can see what a player can and can not do before he even enters the league.

[rayzor]

White is like Devin Hester, he'll make plays no doubt, but for the people who think he'll be a successful QB in the NFL, you're mistaken. Hester can't play his natural position of CB very well at all, so much so that he was transitioned to a WR. All this stuff about White being our solution is pretty ridiculous. Yeah, he'd be a nice playmaker for kick returns and some trick plays on offense, but does that warrant a 2nd round selection? Absolutely not. He reminds me of a slightly better Seneca Wallace. The NFL is a completely different game, and it usually isn't kind to guys like Pat White.

again...what is it that you are basing this off of that he can't play his position?

how is he not a good QB?