Salary Cap Situation

[Kevin Greene]

While Clausen and Edwards might hit the road, Otah is actually pretty cheap this year.

Dunno if releasing pickles and AE really make much of a differnce, I forget their contract stuff.

As 2nd and 3rd round picks the impact would probably be minimal.

[Ivan The Awesome]

Should be 2.5 each. So another 5M. That's 10m. Otah I don't know.

This was wrong. I retract the statement. Apparently, Jimmer and AE would be around 1 million combined. Otah is 1 million by himself. So if you cut all and TD, it would be around 3.3 million off this year. Not much. Here's a link. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/yearly/

[panthers55]

While Clausen and Edwards might hit the road, Otah is actually pretty cheap this year.

Dunno if releasing pickles and AE really make much of a differnce, I forget their contract stuff.

As you note Clausen is on his rookie contract and his salary for 2012 is 490,000. 2.53 million of his 6.9 million contract was guaranteed so I don't know what his cap hit would be if we kept or cut him. He is due a fourth escalator in 2013 which would bring his salary up to almost 3 million next year so if we keep him, this is likely his last year.

Edwards is cheap at 490,000 salary for 2012 and we won't save money if we cut him.

Otah is also on his rookie contract making only around 1.1 million in salary. So for a potential starting right tackle that is very cheap.

[panthers55]

This was wrong. I retract the statement. Apparently, Jimmer and AE would be around 1 million combined. Otah is 1 million by himself. So if you cut all and TD, it would be around 3.3 million off this year. Not much. Here's a link. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/yearly/

What you forget is that is that if you cut these players you still have to pay any guaranteed money and signing bonuses which escalate and creat dead cap space. And you have to replace them. So that supposed 2 million by cutting Otah, Edwards and Clausen may be be nothing or sometimes it actually costs more to cut them than keep them. I doubt it would save 1 million combined. So no you wouldn't cut them to save money if they worth a roster spot.

[Ivan The Awesome]

As you note Clausen is on his rookie contract and his salary for 2012 is 490,000. 2.53 million of his 6.9 million contract was guaranteed so I don't know what his cap hit would be if we kept or cut him. He is due a fourth escalator in 2013 which would bring his salary up to almost 3 million next year so if we keep him, this is likely his last year.

Edwards is cheap at 490,000 salary for 2012 and we won't save money if we cut him.

Otah is also on his rookie contract making only around 1.1 million in salary. So for a potential starting right tackle that is very cheap.

True, but they're all dead weight, eating up more than anything roster spots, than money. Otah is finished. He's never healthy. Cut your losses and go get those players that would make a difference.

[panthers55]

True, but they're all dead weight, eating up more than anything roster spots, than money. Otah is finished. He's never healthy. Cut your losses and go get those players that would make a difference.

Too early to tell in my opinion. I think you bring them into camp and see what happens. If they don't deserve a roster spot then cut them. But I would argue with 80 roster spots for camp purposes, they each deserve one more shot.

[CPF4LIFE]

lol!....ded.

[Ivan The Awesome]

Too early to tell in my opinion. I think you bring them into camp and see what happens. If they don't deserve a roster spot then cut them. But I would argue with 80 roster spots for camp purposes, they each deserve one more shot.

I said that about Everette Brown last year, he's not here anymore. Hurney, Or whoever made the decision, made the decision then, a good one to cut the losses and move on from that project. Clausen is definitely dead weight. About the only reason I'd want him to get a shot is for him to put up a show in the preseason and us him as trade bait for a mid round draft pick. Armanti is the offensive version of Brown this year. I have a feeling he'll be cut, hurney will admit it was a mistake. As for Otah and TD, both awesome players in their own right. But injuries man, injuries. Sometimes you have to let go. You know what I mean?

I see what your saying, they may well make the roster spot before the final cuts, Clausen and Edwards I mean. Otah and TD, not so much. That's just me, personally though.

[thefuzz]

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Just the way I look at it.

When you have to hope that a player takes an extension/reworks his contract after his 11th season, to make you able to sign draft picks and a mid tier FA, you are doing it wrong.

And lets not even bring up Ken Lucas, Jake, and Pep.

[thefuzz]

Hurney the capoligist. :lol:

We're only a couple years removed from the organization being put in a stranglehold by Julius Peppers for 2 years. So desperate for cap space we had to extend Jake for millions. Let's hope Hurney pulls his head out of his ass and manages to free the space to sign a couple decent Free Agents while not releasing key players.

Thats what I have been saying.

It seems to me that posters on this board think that being under the cap, makes you a salary cap master.

P.S. Everyone has to be under the cap.

[Kurb]

fug it, im not debating this anymore.

I give up any hope of a fraction of you being more than mouthbreathers

[carpanfan96]

Thats what I have been saying.

It seems to me that posters on this board think that being under the cap, makes you a salary cap master.

P.S. Everyone has to be under the cap.

I will take NFL statements over fan statements on this every day of the week. He worked cap, contract negotiations and overseeing scouting from 1988-present.

7th in wins from 2002-2009 is not middle of the pack, you also can't blame him for the 2010 situation as that was the owners decision to cut cap back that drastically which ruined the teams chemistry.

There's a reason that he has a job, no matter what happens. He's basically got an infinite contract with this team.

[Lilsmitty09]

we're missing someone here...cut Mare! overatted peice of spit cost us an arm and a leg..

[jtnc]

It's pretty depressing to see where Falcons are at the cap, and where we are. Smh.