Nice Pat Y article on Hardy.

[DaCityKats]

How did he think that when mcclain got more playing time and Fua was the 1st to lose his starting job. Remeber Ron fields started a few games before being cut.

Links?

[Snake]

Its all in how you look at Hardy. If you look like most huddlers and compare him to Pro bowl DEs well he sucks... If you look at him for what he is(a 6th round pick) then he has progressed very well.

[CRA]

Its all in how you look at Hardy. If you look like most huddlers and compare him to Pro bowl DEs well he sucks... If you look at him for what he is(a 6th round pick) then he has progressed very well.

true. great value for Hardy.

but he still should be rotational guy/backup.....not a flat out starter. Not good enough.

[Davidson Deac II]

Some defensive ends don't really start to click until at least their third year. I think we will see some definite improvement from Hardy this year, more pressure and better play against the run.

[beastson]

Idk what he talking about. I personally made the thread about Hardy being terrible against the run

Going into his 3rd year. Had no offseason as well as the motorcycle accident. I think this might be his breakout year. He did show promise plenty of times last season just like CJ so idk why ppl are so down on him. He's just more concerned with getting sacks and to the QB than being an all around good DE

[PhillyB]

Off-tackle runs to hardy's side were the defenses' achilles heel all season long. If he can learn to seal off the edge better he'll be greatly improved. Getting consistent pressure up the middle will help him as a pass rusher and make the rest of the defense look good as well.

DT is a bigger need than people give it credit for.

[beastson]

^ The run game did improve towards the very end. I dont remember Hardy standing out as much as before. So that is a point. But I think he'll be aight

[mmmbeans]

Some defensive ends don't really start to click until at least their third year. I think we will see some definite improvement from Hardy this year, more pressure and better play against the run.

agreed, though I'd still be happy with BPA along the line.

[bleys]

Greg Hardy is a beast.. maybe only in pass protection, whatever, but I love that kid.. I hope he's around here for the next 10 years...

[OneBadassCat]

Hardy is going to be a good player for us. He's only in his 2nd year, he has all the physical tools, probably more so than CJ. Way too early to call it quits on him.

[Snake]

true. great value for Hardy.

but he still should be rotational guy/backup.....not a flat out starter. Not good enough.

Its true he was a liability last year but he was extremely raw his rookie season. He should keep progressing with his talent.

To really sum it up, yes we need some more depth there but we really don't need to waste draft picks to get it.

[panthers55]

I am still wondering how being in for more plays means you are good?? Seems to me that you are durable and injury free would be accurate. It also could mean that we don't have anyone else who can back you up so you are forced to play the whole game.

But I don't know if that means better. It could, but definitely isn't causal.

[bleys]

I am still wondering how being in for more plays means you are good?? Seems to me that you are durable and injury free would be accurate. It also could mean that we don't have anyone else who can back you up so you are forced to play the whole game.

But I don't know if that means better. It could, but definitely isn't causal.

yeah Pat Y kind of told on himself..

[Donald LaFell]

If Hardy was such a handicap in the run defense. Why was he on the field more then any DE in this division. Rivera isn't stupid and knows defense. If he felt Hardy sucked against the run he wouldn't have been out their as much as he was. We did have ok back-up DE's.

I think one reason a lot of young guys played is injuries and rivera knew he can afford to gain experience at the cost of losing games.