Abortion, ban it or endorse it?????

[PanthaSan]

I'm very proud of you huddle. Way to have a somewhat mature discussion on such a controversial topic.

We really do need a sarcasm font.....

[Mrs Pantherfan]

For once, I don't think he was being sarcastic

[PanthaSan]

Oops, my bad.

Sorry Panthro.

[Mrs Pantherfan]

LOL he's proud of us :) *single tear*

[Panthro]

go fick yourself!

[Mrs Pantherfan]

well...maybe not

[lightsout]

- do you know how many great people were born to parents who "weren't fit to be parents"?

- do you know how many great/successful people were born to parents that couldn't afford it?

If the parents (or woman) can't handle the responsiblity of a child (which was there CHOICE when they had sex) then they can give it up for adoption. The waiting list for parents wanting to adopt is a mile long.

If you don't want it or can't raise a kid....then choose an option that is best for the child longterm. Once a women chooses to have sex and a heartbeat exists.......I just don't get how so many educated people think someone then has the "right" to choose live or die w/ that life.

You're objectively wrong. Sure, plenty of people born of bad/broke parents were successful. That isn't the issue. The issue is responsibility. If people know they don't want/can't handle/can't afford to take care of a child, then they shouldn't be forced to keep it, or even carry out the 9 months of doctor's bills.

It is nobody's choice to have a child when they have sex. The only choice made when people have sex is the choice to have sex (assuming it isn't a rape). I choose every time I have sex to not have a kid. That's like saying by killing somebody you're choosing the death penalty. There are possible consequences, yes, but it doesn't mean you chose a specific consequence.

A heartbeat doesn't mean the fetus is viable. If the fetus can live outside the womb without being plugged up to machines to keep it breathing, THEN it is a human, like you and I. Not a minute before.

You're right, this is all a matter of opinion, but when expressing your opinion, don't say such easily refutable things, as you have thus far.

[Iceberg Slim]

You're objectively wrong. Sure, plenty of people born of bad/broke parents were successful. That isn't the issue. The issue is responsibility. If people know they don't want/can't handle/can't afford to take care of a child, then they shouldn't be forced to keep it, or even carry out the 9 months of doctor's bills.

It is nobody's choice to have a child when they have sex. The only choice made when people have sex is the choice to have sex (assuming it isn't a rape). I choose every time I have sex to not have a kid. That's like saying by killing somebody you're choosing the death penalty. There are possible consequences, yes, but it doesn't mean you chose a specific consequence.

A heartbeat doesn't mean the fetus is viable. If the fetus can live outside the womb without being plugged up to machines to keep it breathing, THEN it is a human, like you and I. Not a minute before.

You're right, this is all a matter of opinion, but when expressing your opinion, don't say such easily refutable things, as you have thus far.

I would offer that based on the courts recent exhuberance about prosecution of unborn infants in muder cases clearly proves that to not be the stance the government shares. Further I would offer that by your logic anyone who is perhaps in a coma is not to be considered alive either, so if that's the case is it okay to knock them off as well. No disrespect intended but I am following the logic you just laid out

[Claws]

im on Team Abortion!

here we go abortion here we go (clap clap)

[lightsout]

I would offer that based on the courts recent exhuberance about prosecution of unborn infants in muder cases clearly proves that to not be the stance the government shares. Further I would offer that by your logic anyone who is perhaps in a coma is not to be considered alive either, so if that's the case is it okay to knock them off as well. No disrespect intended but I am following the logic you just laid out

I have no idea what you mean by the first part.

The second part, you simply are misusing what I said. The difference in a coma patient and a fetus are major. A coma patient is alive, has lived, etc. A fetus is just...a fetus. That is it. If you remove a fetus from the womb, it cannot survive. A coma patient has an ailment, hence the coma. A fetus is just...a fetus. Nothing wrong with it. It is a parasite feeding and thriving on the mother until it becomes self-viable, at which point it becomes a baby human.

This isn't a difficult concept.

[Kevin Greene]

men should absolutely stay out of the issue.

Until the child is born and then they can pay for 18 years?

me...If you want an abortion you should have it in the 1st trimester.

I am pro life but I my opinion should no way dictate a woman's decision. I knew that if I had ever found myself in that situation I would give my opinion but also my support for their decision either way.

Yeah, I wonder how many people who have an absolute on abortion have actually walked that path.

How can you not be Pro Life/Pro Family/Pro Choice? I'd rather see every pregnancy come to term but there are times it's better if it doesn't. And I'd feel equally responsible for an abortion and struggle with the decision if I was the father. fug anyone who says it's none of my business.

[Messi]

I take objection to the phrasing of the question. I don't think supporting a woman's right to choice is an endorsement of the choice that she makes.

[SmootsDaddy89]

You get charged with two murders if you kill a pregnant woman because the law is basically saying that the fetus, assuming it the pregnancy continues without any setbacks, would eventually be born and be a living, breathing person. They aren't making any sort of ruling about whether or not it's alive at the time, but rather what would likely happen down the road.

[SmootsDaddy89]

There's a big difference between a woman choosing to abort her child, and a random psychopath like theedaddy making that decision for her.