Cams pro bowl

[footballisasport]

I know it's the pro bowl but this is the national stage and cam looks real bad.

He looked bad because he's Cam Newton and so much is made over every ish he does. Do you really feel so much would be made over yesterdays game and how a rookie played if it was say, Andrew Luck?

I mean, it was the PRO-BOWL. And Cam had the worst end of the deal because his side didn't push back against the AFC started to play hard. he didn't even have a running game.

In the meantime, how did Dalton play? His whole game was pass the ball except for two throws. Maybe the NFC should have practiced their passing game instead of just their gunslinging game, just in case. But in all seriousness, look who Cam was following, two gunslingers who had all day in the pocket to sling the ball around in the first two rounds.

It's clear the AFC practiced their running game more because they only had one real gunslinger on their side and that was Big Ben.

[BBQ&Beer]

Pretty broad statement, considering he didn't even make the top ten rookie QB list. Granted he made a lot of records on the quantity side, but he made none on the quality side such as completion percentage, accuracy or passer rating.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=list/rookieqbs

First off, you failed at using the quote function... its just one button you have to click & maybe some cleanup, yet you screwed that up...

Now then, debut, (For people who don't have trouble figuring out quoting on boards,) that would be the first regular season game he played. It was a loss, but, 24/37, 422 yards, 2 TDs, 1int. He also rushed for a td.

Btw, have you come to terms with how sad it is that you are so insecure you have to show up after the fact to talk poo?

Eta: Oh... My... Fuggin...

Dude! That article you used as a source is from 2004!!!!!

Bwaaaahahaha!

Oooooh you got a lil derp on your herp there.

[Spaceballs83]

All i saw out of Dalton was some side throws to a WR with 1 or 2 lob throws where Marshall made crazy catch. Didnt see one vertical down the field pass.

[chef17]

Sorry, I watched NFLN enough to see the type of character Mike Mayock is. The man is straight up anal and very narrowminded. He is also very smug and condescending. He seems very shallow, IMO. And I've had that opinion of him long before Cam came into the picture.

Mike has nothing else to hold unto when it comes to Cam, so being so anal over his footwork is the only thing he has left. My question is, why can't there be other reasons for Cam miss-throws besides his footwork? And why did he feel the need to talk about non-stop with Cam. Yet said nothing about how the other QBs were playing, except to rave over the vets and praise Dalton's work eithics.

Also, where did the ASSUMPTION that Cam didn't have good work eithics come from in the first place? Why should I believe Cam's work ethics are any better or worst than Andrew Luck or Blaine Gabbert's? Because folks like Mayock say so? If Mayock want us to believe that Dalton has great work eithics simply because his college coach said so, then why are we made to be cynical when Cam's coaches from Auburn, Blinn, and UF all said the same thing about his work ethics and influence on his team-mates?

Even when the Panthers' coach, Ron Rivera, who did his research on Cam, stated what he found, folks like Mayock had this smug, "will see" attitude as if they wanted the world to judge Cam based on nothing more than their constant and empty comparison to Jamarcus Russell.

Not defending Mayock but Cam was the only one with a shitty game. Only makes sense he was the only one criticized

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

All i saw out of Dalton was some side throws to a WR with 1 or 2 lob throws where Marshall made crazy catch. Didnt see one vertical down the field pass.

really about the only conclusions we can draw about the two young quarterbacks at the pro bowl that could possibly hold any water are that 1. newton needs to work on his footwork because he's a mess when he doesn't set his feet and 2. andy dalton has a wet noodle for an arm on par with jimmy clausen. this was a problem in the playoffs too-he rainbows passes and seemingly doesn't have the arm strength to put it in front of his receivers on deep routes. on marshall's circus catch for instance, his man was actually open and the ball was thrown into single coverage but he rainbowed it and the other DB had time to make it over. that's a surefire pick nine times out of ten but marshall's heads up play on the ball and the DBs running into each other saved him.

basically if there was a machine that injection molded west coast offense quarterbacks andy dalton would be the default die that shipped with it. he's good at what he does but not terribly versatile. kevin kolb-ish.

[Boxhead85]

No one on the AFC defense was seriously trying in the first half. When Cam came in, they turned it on though. They wanted to get after him because it was a challenge. And because it was the Pro Bowl, Cam didn't care if he threw picks or not. He was out there enjoying every bit, even if he was getting booed by the crowd.

[Boxhead85]

Also, Mike Mayock is a dumbass. He has no business commentating.

[chef17]

No one on the AFC defense was seriously trying in the first half. When Cam came in, they turned it on though. They wanted to get after him because it was a challenge. And because it was the Pro Bowl, Cam didn't care if he threw picks or not. He was out there enjoying every bit, even if he was getting booed by the crowd.

Going after Brees and Rodgers isn't a challenge?

[The_Mango55]

They got onto him not because he was Cam Newton (I am convinced that's why the Saints linemen didn't block for him though) but because they were pissed about the coaching.

Cam's first 2 series, the first pick and the TD to Smith, the D was playing like they were in the first half. Then we called another onside kick, the AFC got pissed about it, and they started playing like it was a real game. The NFC never adjusted. You could see this on the NFC defense too, the AFC went to a power run game and the NFC just wasn't prepared for it at all, they were still playing soft.

Cam Newton got shafted, but it wasn't because of who he was, it was because of the coaching.

[raleigh-panther]

Why is it so hard to say he played like crap?

It is not always someone else's fault.

It might have been the coaches or the line or the play calls or the sun or the sky; but the fact is, he played terribly.

Again, I like Newton. I think he is an incredible talent, but, in this game on Sunday he ws abysmal for most of it and that is a fact and in this meaningless game, it exposed all those things that the Panthers' offense built around him hides.

[PanthersFanInGA]

Seriously? This thread is stupid. It's the Pro Bowl.

[trix123]

Why is it so hard to say he played like crap?

It is not always someone else's fault.

It might have been the coaches or the line or the play calls or the sun or the sky; but the fact is, he played terribly.

Again, I like Newton. I think he is an incredible talent, but, in this game on Sunday he ws abysmal for most of it and that is a fact and in this meaningless game, it exposed all those things that the Panthers' offense built around him hides.

So wait, you want us to admit he played a bad game, with no excuses, but then go on to say that his bad game shows that he has a weakenss that is hidden by our offense........kinda contradictory to me......

How about, yes, he had a bad game, no one is to blame, but at the same time, it shouldnt mean anything, because with the 16 games he played when it did matter, along with no off season, shows that this was just a bad game, nothing more....

I was honestly laughing my head off at how poorly he was playing,he almost looked like The Golden Calf of Bristol, tbh. But at the same time I was saying to myself that something like this is what he needs....for most of the season he has been roundly praised and he got somewhat brought back down to earth. Now I expect him to come back after the break looking to prove people wrong like he did coming into this season. I was actually hoping that he wouldnt make it to make him even more driven.

[The_Mango55]

Why is it so hard to say he played like crap?

It is not always someone else's fault.

It might have been the coaches or the line or the play calls or the sun or the sky; but the fact is, he played terribly.

Again, I like Newton. I think he is an incredible talent, but, in this game on Sunday he ws abysmal for most of it and that is a fact and in this meaningless game, it exposed all those things that the Panthers' offense built around him hides.

The NFC offensive line also played terribly in the second half. Probably much worse than Cam did. What did that "expose" about them?

[NineOhTheRino]

Why do you people consider this guy a good QB? He only completes 59% of his passes and has a 1-to-1 TD/INT ratio. That's not elite! Forget yards! The NFL changed the rules so every garbage QB can throw for big yards now.