Panthers to draft a QB...

[Argus Plexus]

I like it. Not the song, that was awful. But the player is good. I wouldn't complain. Makes sense, just wish he was a little taller.

[panthers55]

2008 ACC Rookie of the Year

2008 First-team All-ACC

2010 Second-team All-ACC

The consecutive passes streak was during his sophomore year, the consecutive games with a touchdown was basically his entire career.

His height really is not that big of an issue.

Your accomplishments list is like a higlight reel. It looks good but not really.

First of all lets be clear. The ACC is still a basketball conference moreso than a football conference so being good in the ACC is not that great. Secondly completing less than 60% of your passes in a conference like the ACC is not exactly stellar. His only year above 60% was at Wisconsin. And he averaged around 3 yards a carry running the ball.

If you compare him to other quarterbacks his numbers were good not great which is what I said.

HIs height might not be an issue in college but it will be in the NFl. Brees is 6 ft tall and they talk about it because he is the exception to the rule. A vertical passing attack in the NFl requires a quarterback to see over the line and down the field. He might be okay in west coast passing attack like New Orleans runs but not in ours.

Take over the homer glasses, He is good not great and he wouldn't even be good in our offense.

[panthers55]

His OL at wisconsin was just as tall as our OL is now :/

The difference is seeing over defenders who are all 6 3 or better and jump up to bat down the ball. Plus it is a function of what you are asking the quarterback to do. If he is throwing a 3 yard pass to a wide open receiver then he doesn't have to have a clear field of vision. If you are asking him to throw a 25 yard downfield pass between 2 defenders in the NFL, then he needs to see over the line and know where all the defenders are. Short folks struggle doing that.

[The_Mango55]

So you discount him being good in the ACC because the ACC isn't that good, but then when he dominates the Big 10 you discount it because it's only one year?

How many good years did Cam have? How many really good years did RG3 have?

[thatlookseasy]

He could be our very own TJ Yates (5th rounder last year)!

But honestly I would rather not draft him. No offense, but the Panthers were 6-10 last year and it wasnt due to bad QB play. I suppose I wouldnt mind Wilson if the front office didnt like anyone else on the board who plays CB, S, DL, LB, or OL at our pick.

[panthers55]

So you discount him being good in the ACC because the ACC isn't that good, but then when he dominates the Big 10 you discount it because it's only one year?

How many good years did Cam have? How many really good years did RG3 have?

He had one good year in a run heavy offense- they ran twice as much as they threw. So naturally he would have decent numbers since defenses were geared to stop the run not the pass.

His accomplishments in college will not translate to the NFl where pass defenses are much better. And before you discount my opinion about his ability, I was one of the few who said Cam would tear things up in the NFL and was right. Wilson is not the same thing at all.

[csx]

He had one good year in a run heavy offense- they ran twice as much as they threw. So naturally he would have decent numbers since defenses were geared to stop the run not the pass.

His accomplishments in college will not translate to the NFl where pass defenses are much better. And before you discount my opinion about his ability, I was one of the few who said Cam would tear things up in the NFL and was right. Wilson is not the same thing at all.

LOL

You weren't one of the few. You were a fan who went took stance that was 50/50. That doesn't make you some kind of scout or make you correct about every other QB.

[panthers55]

LOL

You weren't one of the few. You were a fan who went took stance that was 50/50. That doesn't make you some kind of scout or make you correct about every other QB.

If I were a scout, I wouldn't be here talking on a messageboard to you. But yeah I watched and listened to those folks that were experts in my opinion and formed my opinion. Wilson may be picked up late by someone but I was talking specifically about the Panthers. He might be good in a west coast system or in a spread if someone puts one in this year. But in our vertical passing offense he would struggle. I won't take him in any round before the 6th but that is my opinion which is surely not an expert one.

[Bronn]

Learn to get the sand out of your vagina.

learn not to speak unless spoken to

[The_Mango55]

Wilson has never run a spread offense. At Wisconsin he ran a play action offense with a heavy dose of running game. Pretty much the same thing we run here.

[PantherBrew]

Wilson has never run a spread offense. At Wisconsin he ran a play action offense with a heavy dose of running game. Pretty much the same thing we run here.

At state, there were many packages that were shotgun, spreadish.

We had to use it, because of the inconsistant running game.

[The_Mango55]

Yeah he played from the shotgun a lot but it wasn't your classic spread offense.

Also didn't help that some of the offensive linemen were converted defensive linemen. :p

[panthers55]

Wilson has never run a spread offense. At Wisconsin he ran a play action offense with a heavy dose of running game. Pretty much the same thing we run here.

Play action is not an offense is it a passing play where you fake the run first and then pass it. Try again. Even pro-style offenses are broken into categories such as WCO, Air Coryell style, Ernhardt-Perkins style, If you are telling me he ran a run read option style, that is what we do some of the time but that is not our offense. And we don't run the ball twice as much as we throw like Wisconsin did. Not even close.

A run read option style offense is a combination of typically the EP and the spread offense.

[The_Mango55]

:rolleyes:

In case you couldn't understand, they run the play action a lot. So do the Panthers. They are also heavily reliant on the run, like the Panthers.