I love these pics of Eli from last night's game.

[Jbro]

1. Brady

2T. Rodgers, Brees

4. Roethlisberger

5. Rivers

6T. Romo, Ryan

8. Eli

I'm not counting guys like Peyton or Schaub who have had injuries, or people like Newton and Stafford that haven't had the years behind them like these other guys do...

Have you seen Romo and Ryan playoff performances? Rivers is on the decline and Ben has a top 5 D.

[The_Mango55]

How could you argue for Romo but not Rivers?

I think they are both better than Eli.

Rivers on the decline? He just had a bad season, which was still better than all but 2 of Eli's seasons.

Not Ryan though.

[Swarly]

How could you argue for Romo but not Rivers?

I think they are both better than Eli.

Romo gets a bad wrap but he honestly isn't that bad. Yeah he definitely folds in crucial moments and that's why I said I disagreed with putting him over Eli. Just saying you could make the argument just based on stats that Romo is up there.

Rivers on the other hand... he was awful last year. Not bottom 5 Jimmy Clausen awful, but he did not play like he did in recent years(20 picks...)

[beckersteen]

The Giants still would have won if GB put up 5 TDs..

Not going to necessarily disagree because it's hard to argue about changed scenarios. I don't think the Giants would have put up 37 points with a Packers offense putting together complete drives and thus altering the time of possession.

[Jbro]

Rivers rating has gone down every year since 2008.

[The_Mango55]

Rivers on the other hand... he was awful last year. Not bottom 5 Jimmy Clausen awful, but he did not play like he did in recent years(20 picks...)

If 20 interceptions this past season proved something about Rivers, what did 25 interceptions from Eli the previous season prove about him?

[Swarly]

Rivers rating has gone down every year since 2008.

trying to be objective here(I'm with you on Rivers being way overrated and certainly not better than Eli) but a lot of this has to do with Norv being completely incompetent.

[Swarly]

If 20 interceptions this past season proved something about Rivers, what did 25 interceptions from Eli the previous season prove about him?

are we basing this off of careers now? I'm going off who is the better QB NOW(as in this season).

and FWIW, I'm pretty sure there is a youtube video that shows every one of Eli's interceptions last year. I hate pulling the tipped ball interception card, but holy poo his receivers accounted for so many picks. Hell, just in week one against us I remember there being like 3 tipped balls off the receivers hands for interceptions.

[The_Mango55]

Rivers rating has gone down every year since 2008.

And this season, which is his 2nd worst so far, is still better than all but 2 of Eli's.

[beckersteen]

are we basing this off of careers now? I'm going off who is the better QB NOW(as in this season).

and FWIW, I'm pretty sure there is a youtube video that shows every one of Eli's interceptions last year. I hate pulling the tipped ball interception card, but holy poo his receivers accounted for so many picks. Hell, just in week one against us I remember there being like 3 tipped balls off the receivers hands for interceptions.

This is a good observation. Tipped interceptions, depending on the scenario, shouldn't be blamed on the QB.

[Swarly]

This is a good observation. Tipped interceptions, depending on the scenario, shouldn't be blamed on the QB.

It's just a hard argument to use because it happens to every QB. I just remember Eli's picks last year being on the receivers more often than not.

[Jangler]

BEES!

[beckersteen]

It's just a hard argument to use because it happens to every QB. I just remember Eli's picks last year being on the receivers more often than not.

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[beckersteen]

aw can't rep you jangler, but you so funny