Panthers vs. Cowboys MNF

[Carolina Crazy V2]

Show me where since the South was established, that Carolina has consistently produced year after year? You can't... don't even try man, we both know your team is inconsistent year to year.

Yea man, we finished out in such a great fashion... exactly similar to how your defense finished with the Giants too eh... But of course, your defense was perfectly healthy when the Giants busted out that 300 yard game right?

Actually, Kemeautu was hurt as well as Brayton and Damione Lewis were fighting an injury. Oh and in reply to your other post, Chris Harris had more than 1 forced fumble last year oh and who lead the league two years ago??

[Udogg]

1.We absoulutely destroyed the Bucs. I mean they were not even the same team after our last game.

2. Your on the CAROLINA PANTHERS forums. Of course its filled with over zealous fans who think the Panthers are the gold standard in every phase of football.

3. Tampa Bay is not he model of consistency either so why hate?

4. We are the NFC South Champions and Tampa Bay is not. Until the start of the season, then thats just how it is.

5. There is absolutely nothing you could say that would make us think that the sun doesn't rise when the Panthers get out of bed.

6. The only reason you come here is because we care. Your a troll. Try to disguise it all you want but that is all you are. Go to your own site, oh wait .. no one there cares.

[Lone Buc Fan]

Excuse me a whopping 2 Forced Fumbles because he's such a huge hitter. Don't forget about his 1 Interception too, because thats so impressive.

See, now your making some sense as to why you gave up 300 yards rushing against the Giants.. make sense why Tampa Bay would give up 300 yards now? We had more injuries our 2nd game on defense then what you guys had vs the Giants and your sitting here bragging about it. Brag about giving up 300 yards to the Giants with having less injuries on defense lol..

2 years ago means jack squat, Tampa won the division with a 9-7 record (where was Carolina again?)

So yea, keep these great insightful points of yours going please.

[Lone Buc Fan]

Udogg

1. Yea, destroyed them nearly as bad as they destroyed you the first meeting when playing healthy lol.. or you going to forget about you solid 3 points scored that game?

2. Obvious.

3. Tampa Bay has been more consistent in general over the past 2 years then Carolina

4. You were the NFC South Champions, now its all up for grabs... repeat and you guys will have earned some stock (why do you think no one talks about Carolina? They are expecting them to fall off the wagon like they typically do)

5. Alright, I guess?

6. Its good to hear these great topics and responses and people being childish as they always get away from the topic at hand and I do post on a forum other then this thats Tampa related. They don't spaz like most people on here do over 1 little word.

[Peppermint9030]

You need to chill out, bud. Chris Harris hit awesome with his what 60 tackles and 1 forced fumble last year? Yea, he was suppousedly hurt but thats no excuse as you guy keep bringing up the MNF game over and over and how those injuries didn't matter.

Jermaine Phillips can do the same if not more then Chris Harris as he plays in the box more often then Harris does. Phillips played through broken forearms last season, you must not know who he is when your halfbacks couldn't get more then 39 rush yards when Phillips stacked the box.

Yea, put Godfrey behind Chris Horton and Kenny Phillips and that could be possible. Godfrey didn't show any real ability to be a playmaker, Aqib had more interceptions as a nickel corner. Aqib wasen't even on the field as often as Godfrey and Godfrey started all season. Godfrey did so great that you guys gave up 30 points a good amount of times and 300+ yard passers. Definatley a top rookie for sure.

Why would DeMarcus need as many tackles as Beason when he was like 20x as many sacks lol... Sacks > Tackles... I'd taking a leading sacker at LB over a guy with a decent amount of tackles (Beason didn't even lead the leauge in tackles might I add and barely finished ahead of Barrett Ruud)...

I always lose, you love being under that impression.

I know, I know... Chris Harris is the next Troy Polamalu man. I mean hell, he's a Panther... he has to be the best at his position... All because he plays for Carolina. Good point. I'll shut up.

You have lost all credibility to any of the posts you have made with that demarcus ware comment because it truly shows your football knowledge. Beason is a middle linebaker, Demarcus ware is an OLB/DE who blitzes the entire game! Patrick Willis MLB 1.5 sacks, Ray Lewis MLB 1 sack... your an absolute idiot.

[Lone Buc Fan]

Beason and Ware are both Linebackers and someone before me tried to say Beason was better then Ware... Your aiming your views at the wrong person here peppermint. Hey, he'd take tackles over sacks though. Which impacts a game more?

Okay... so there ya go, higher stock falls to DeMarcus Ware. And if I'm a absoloute idiot, then your nothing more then a half bit retard if you don't understand what contributes more to a team.

[Peppermint9030]

Udogg

1. Yea, destroyed them nearly as bad as they destroyed you the first meeting when playing healthy lol.. or you going to forget about you solid 3 points scored that game?

2. Obvious.

3. Tampa Bay has been more consistent in general over the past 2 years then Carolina

4. You were the NFC South Champions, now its all up for grabs... repeat and you guys will have earned some stock (why do you think no one talks about Carolina? They are expecting them to fall off the wagon like they typically do)

5. Alright, I guess?

6. Its good to hear these great topics and responses and people being childish as they always get away from the topic at hand and I do post on a forum other then this thats Tampa related. They don't spaz like most people on here do over 1 little word.

No one here is being childish but yourself. You cant compare Ware to Beason you can compare him to Peppers not Beason, peppers is an edge rusher like Ware (different schemes) Ware would not have 20 sacks if he played Outside linebacker in a 4-3 scheme... I would take Beason and Peppers over Ware and any other defensive player on that front 7 anyday of the week.

[Peppermint9030]

Beason and Ware are both Linebackers and someone before me tried to say Beason was better then Ware... Your aiming your views at the wrong person here peppermint. Hey, he'd take tackles over sacks though. Which impacts a game more?

Okay... so there ya go, higher stock falls to DeMarcus Ware. And if I'm a absoloute idiot, then your nothing more then a half bit retard if you don't understand what contributes more to a team.

Im literally angry right now because your that stupid. Sacks mean more for edge rushers than sacks do for inside linebackers. Tackles mean more than sacks for Middle linebackers! In a 3-4 scheme an olb is basically a DE. Peppers had 14.5 sacks 5 less than Ware and hes our edge rusher. Ill take 14.5 sacks from the outside with pep, 140 tackles at Mlb and 113 from Davis over Ware and once again any defensive combination on that front 7.

[Lone Buc Fan]

I'm being childish when your spazzing out about me saying Ware has more stock then Beason? Yea, that makes great sense. I wasen't comparing Ware to Beason, as I said in the last post (which you seem blind)... Carolina Crazy V2 said "Who had more tackles, Beason or Ware? You lose. HA!".. Yea, implying Beason is worth more then Ware.

Don't bother adding Peppers into this now, why don't you read what I'm typing and go back to his post and see what he said. He didn't directly say Beason was better then Ware but he implied that even though Beason didn't make as much of a impact on the field as Ware.

So, yea... check that and get back to me since your calling me out on this one.

[Lone Buc Fan]

Yea, exactly. Thats the whole case in point. What was your carolina panther buddy even comparing Beason to Ware for then if this is the point your getting at? All I'm saying is if he's going to compare them... go check out whose stats were more meaningful.

We weren't throwing combos of players into this mix like your trying to move into that phase of the discussion. We are discussing how Beason had more tackles then Ware...

[Lone Buc Fan]

Which was a retarded comparsion and I'm told I'm a idiot? Sounds more like this guy is a jackass.

[Peppermint9030]

If im correct you stated this

"Okay... so there ya go, higher stock falls to DeMarcus Ware. And if I'm a absoloute idiot, then your nothing more then a half bit retard if you don't understand what contributes more to a team." Your obviously refering to sacks contributing more to a team.

[Peppermint9030]

Look back to your post on the first page you stated this

"Dallas has the edge as they have the best OLB in the leauge (debatable with Harrison but #2 even if so) and they get more sacks, turnovers, and pressure then your linebackers do. Beason is nothing more then a solid tackler as he doesn't ever force fumbles or get sacks. Not discrediting Beason as he's a top MLB."

Beason isnt supposed to get sacks thats all im trying to say, if your going to use Ware in a comparison to someone on our team it should be to peppers not beason. Yes they play lb and de different position but in a 3-4 an olb is compared to a DE rather than a MLB.

[Peppermint9030]

O and by the way just for the record Jermaine Phillips is converting to LB this season.