Pass Rushers - 2nd Round DE

[Lout]

There are several ways we could go with that 2nd Round pick.. whether it be, CB, Safety, Oline, OLB, etc. I think we can add DE to that list. After watching the Giants dismantle the Packers, I feel compelled to improve our pass rush in the worst way. The Saints are very similar to the Packers, and improving the Dline is the key to defeating Drew Brees.

Taking a mammoth DT like Brockers in the 1st is great, and is a major step toward that goal.. but our DE rotation leaves a lot to be desired. We have nobody over a 3rd round pick starting for our Dline. It's time we addressed this.

There are several DE's 2nd round that would vastly improve our pass rush.

Defensive End

Chandler Jones - Syracuse - 6'5" 265lbs

Pro Comparison: Justin Tuck

• Longest Arms in the Draft, regardless of position
  
• UFC Champion, Jon Jones' brother
  
• Great athletiscm
  
• Very strong and can shed blockers with ease in run game
  
• Consistently gets in the backfield
  
• Frequently gets too upright with poor pad level
  
• Good First Step
  
• Poor change of direction
  
• Even with poor hand placement, he still manages to hold his own in the run game
  
• Nice club move, but lacks pass rush moves, lacks proper technique and pad level, with coaching could become elite
  

Vinny Curry - Marshall - 6'4" 263lbs

Pro Comparison: Demarcus Ware

• Shows great technique stipping the ball
  
• Explosive tackler
  
• Great agility getting around the OT/ Uncanny Change of Direction
  
• Quickest DE in the draft
  
• Very Quick Hands and Nonstop Motor/Effort
  
• 3 Years of High Productivity
  
• Limited Pass Rush Moves/ Relies too much on suddeness
  
• Raw against the Run.. may be a situational pass rusher until he refines run Defense
  
• Gained 20lbs of muiscle in past year and did not lose speed
  
• Very high upside/ceiling
  
• Did not play high level competition
  

Cam Johnson - Virginia - 6'4" 270lbs

Pro Comparison: Jeremy Mincey

• Long Arms with great hand placement
  
• Great motor that never stops
  
• Very strong and holds the PoA
  
• Has mental lapses and loses containment often
  
• Full repotoire of pass rush moves, Swim/Bull/Club/Rip
  
• Very strong hands that help gain leverage
  
• High Character/High Durability, only missed 1 game in college
  
• Average quickness around edge
  

Andre Branch - Clemson - 6'4" 260lbs

Pro Comparison: Derrick Harvey

• Long arms, able to stack and shed blocks well
  
• Average burst on edge
  
• Good awareness, does not lose contain on the backside
  
• Shows violent hands with decent pad level
  
• Not an agressive pass rusher
  
• Limited pass rush moves
  
• Great motor with relentless pursuit
  
• Has the frame to add 10+ lbs
  
• Get's blown off the ball in short yard situations due to poor First Step
  
• High potential due to athletiscm
  

[Panthro]

Now do we want a traditional DE or should we go with a hybrid OLB/DE like player.

[Lout]

Now do we want a traditional DE or should we go with a hybrid OLB/DE like player.

That's a good question. I pondered this.. and only found 1 OLB in that mold in the 2nd round. Ronnell Lewis. I could see us taking a Courtney Upshaw in the 1st round though..

[Kurb]

Ingram from SC could fall.

Andre from Clemson should be there too.

[Lout]

Ingram from SC could fall.

Andre from Clemson should be there too.

Ingram can play 3-4 LB, so I think there is less of a chance that he falls.

Andre will def be there.. I will add him.

I think the guy from Illinois could fall, Whitney Mercilus.

[Lout]

I really like Vinny Curry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA-gRqSoSxg&feature=fvst

Vs West virginia

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AcNSHVWYM4&feature=related

The guy just makes plays, he is always in the backfield.

I can't believe he doesn't have a 1st round grade.. the guy is insanely athletic.. and production to boot. Being in a small conference is hurting him I suppose.. but didn't hurt Demarcus Ware. I bet his stock raises after the senior bowl and combine. If he lasts to the 2nd round, we would be foolish not to take him.

[DaCityKats]

another guy who has major production in college.^^^ plus he may could play some OLB in the 3-4 set

[rayzor]

Now do we want a traditional DE or should we go with a hybrid OLB/DE like player.

this is my thinking.

i'd like a joker/pass rush specialist.

[Kurb]

I really dont see us using the 3-4 enough to draft peeps for it.

I know its a fan favorite and all, but really its not a serious option.

[rayzor]

i think we'll be using it enough.

whatever insurance we got for TD should be able to fit into that role.

[Lout]

this is my thinking.

i'd like a joker/pass rush specialist.

Vinny Curry is projected to have the athletiscm to play either position, but projected better at DE.

The only player I would want more than Vinny Curry in the 2nd round is Chase Minnifield, because he is the best zone corner in this draft.

[Kurb]

i think we'll be using it enough.

whatever insurance we got for TD should be able to fit into that role.

I follow that line of thinking. I just want the LBer to be more LB than DE.

Much like TD was in his prime really. He could blitz with the best of them with his speed, but his forte was being a LBer.

[Lout]

I follow that line of thinking. I just want the LBer to be more LB than DE.

Much like TD was in his prime really. He could blitz with the best of them with his speed, but his forte was being a LBer.

Zach Brown reminds me a bit of TD.. and I hear he is falling down boards. Could be a 2nd rounder. Lavonte David is the best coverage LB'r in this draft, but I don't know if he has any pass rush skills...

I like Ronnell Lewis from OU.. he used to play LB but switched to DE his last 2 seasons.. so he has coverage skills for a pass rush specialist.

[Kuech the Sneak]

I think Chandler jones or cam Johnson would be better pure defensive ends, but

I just want the best pass rusher available at that point, I think kurbs mock is good if you switch branch with jones or johnson