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Saints and Falcons both without 1st round picks for 2012 draft


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Saints are in good shape (gag), Falcons not so much... giving up all those picks for Julio Jones and scoring 0 points on offense in the wildcard round has to sting.

I never understood the Falcons approach, they were bounced last year by the Packers because they couldn't play defense (failed to force one punt) so they ran out and traded half their draft away for another offensive skill player?

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Personally, I believe this is one of those circumstances that will not help moreso than hurt them. They will not get as much help through the draft, but neither team is berift of talent. So one year should not break them.

Still nice to see them both in a spot of trouble though. I just do not see this as the beginning of the end sort of thing either. At least for NO. Atl is a different story. This very well could curtail their growth as a team.

When you have a Brees type of QB you are going to be competitive. Ryan is no Brees, so it could hurt Atl more down the line.

Just my thoughts. And GOOOO CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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CatMan, could not pie you so I will respond. I agree. You do not need a great D, just one that can make a few stops and get a turnover once in a while. Atl needed help on D, but drafted a WR. Does not make a lot of sense to me.

Fortunately for us, that trade slowed their growth enough that we just might be able to pass them this year. I hope.

Pie for Catman. And GOOOO CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am not real in favor of trading draft picks but evaluating this on the basis of who is drafted is not telling the whole story. If teams consistently draft poorly – then trade or no trade doesn’t matter.

Suppose San Diego had traded up and been able to draft not Ryan Leaf but Peyton Manning (who went #1)? Then, who wins? SD hands down. It really is about landing the right players, regardless of what you do with the pick.

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one thing that is going to factor into the saints offseason is brees.

his contract is up and i have no doubt they'll keep him around. are they going to franchise him or are they going to give him a new deal. if they give him a new deal...what is that thing going to look like? i have a feeling it's going to look like peyton's and brady's contracts.

if either one of those is true, what kind of impact is that going to have on them being able to keep the slew of FAs they have this year? they've got carl nicks, coltson, and meachem hitting FA as well as a couple defensive guys like franklin and porter.

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Imagine us winning the coin flip over Miami and having some QB-needy team pulling an Atlanta from last year and trading us a slew of picks to move up and grab Tannehill. With Miami needing a QB and with Ponder going so high last year you never know.

I'm having a hard time understanding the infatuation with Tannehill.

I mean if someone wants to trade us a slew of draft picks just to move up and take him, I'm all for it. But all I saw was occasional flashes of brilliance at TAMU surrounded by a lot of mediocrity.

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one thing that is going to factor into the saints offseason is brees.

his contract is up and i have no doubt they'll keep him around. are they going to franchise him or are they going to give him a new deal. if they give him a new deal...what is that thing going to look like? i have a feeling it's going to look like peyton's and brady's contracts.

if either one of those is true, what kind of impact is that going to have on them being able to keep the slew of FAs they have this year? they've got carl nicks, coltson, and meachem hitting FA as well as a couple defensive guys like franklin and porter.

Good point about Brees and the Aint's. They are going to pay him a buttload of money. Which will limit them as to other moves. What core players do you sign? Which do you allow to walk? Who do/can you bring in? All these and more confront teams with a franchise QB.

It is extremely difficult to feild a balanced team when your QB takes up such a big cap hit. Pitt already had a great D before Big Ben. As did the Ravens, Giants, and early NE. It is easier to restock a great D than to build one. So these kind of teams have a slight advantage.

Teams like GB, ATL, IND, and the current NE all have their money tied up on offense. As a result, their defense is shaky at best.

Good franchises seem to get the mixture right. Others seem to flail away. We are on the cusp of having this dilemma. I am very interested to see how we respond.

IMO, we have until Cam's contract comes up to build a roster that can withstand the yearly loss of key players.

Things are going to get exciting in Pantherland. And it is great to be able to say that and actually believe it.

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