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I cant even say that. Kerry never really had a great year here. He didnt have good seasons till he hit NY Gaints.

But Cam did have a great year, and I think he will continue to do so. However a single great season a career does not make. another couple of seasons like this and then he can sit at the top. But I dont think its right to crown him the best QB ever in carolina after one season.

I don't think you understood what I said. I didn't compare the two players at all. I said Cam WILL BE the best unless he pulls a Kerry Collins (meaning, unless Cam walks out on the team like Collins did)

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Walls wasn't on the 2003 Super Bowl team... and no. I remember hearing about the Todd Sauerbrun and that's about it.

Dude !

"Charlotte, NC -- (Sports Network) - Six members of the 2003 NFC champion Carolina Panthers reportedly used performance-enhancing drugs during the club's road to the Super Bowl.

A Charlotte Observer article early Monday sent shockwaves through the NFL community, as the newspaper reported that six members of the team, including three starting offensive linemen, used an array of steroids.

Those implicated in a report composed by steroids expert Dr. Gary Wadler were center Jeff Mitchell, tackle Todd Steussie, guard Kevin Donnalley, tight end Wesley Walls, defensive lineman Henry Taylor and practice squad lineman Louis Williams.

Two other former Panthers, defensive end John Milem and punter Todd Sauerbrun, were previously identified by prosecutors as recipients of banned substances from Shortt. However, the newspaper reported that neither player was named in this report."

http://www.theindychannel.com/sports/9748613/detail.html

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Thanks!

I remember Steussie, Mitchell and Donnalley. But Walls was not on the team for the SB run... he played for the Panthers from 1996-2002.

But that's not the point. You said you were going with steriod free players.

"The Associated Press reports Dr. James Shortt, who is accused of writing illegal steroid prescriptions for three former Carolina Panthers, advised the players how to take the drugs without failing league tests. A judge heard tape-recorded conversations Thursday, Dec. 2, between the doctor and former Panthers and current Denver Broncos P Todd Sauerbrun, former Panthers TE Wesley Walls, and Panthers C Jeff Mitchell in which he told them how to avoid detection."

http://www.kffl.com/player/282/NFL

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