BCS NCG: Bama vs LSU

[HeatCheck]

It was based on results. I don't base my opinions of best team on talent but rather on how a team plays, and I saw the worst offense I've seen all year last night.

The key word in that statement, is last night.

I base my opinion of how a team plays as well. Bama and LSU played the best football out of all the teams, that is why I (and plenty of others) consider them the top teams.

Actually OK State is better than LSU.

But why do you think LSU was a better team coming into this game but now you think OSU is better than LSU? Like I said, nothing has changed with these teams.

That to me tells me you see the box score and scores to see who is better without watching these games.

[The_Mango55]

I have not one time in my entire argument said LSU shouldn't have been in the championship game.

I HAVE said that they aren't one of the best 2 teams in the country.

[The_Mango55]

The key word in that statement, is last night.

I base my opinion of how a team plays as well. Bama and LSU played the best football out of all the teams, that is why I (and plenty of others) consider them the top teams.

But why do you think LSU was a better team coming into this game but now you think OSU is better than LSU? Like I said, nothing has changed with these teams.

That to me tells me you see the box score and scores to see who is better without watching these games.

I WOULD have thought that OSU was the best team (or at least possibly the best team) if they hadn't lost to Iowa State.

That's the result of a single game.

Why should the result of a single game matter in the regular season but not the supposedly most important game of the year.

[HeatCheck]

I WOULD have thought that OSU was the best team (or at least possibly the best team) if they hadn't lost to Iowa State.

That's the result of a single game.

Why should the result of a single game matter in the regular season but not the supposedly most important game of the year.

But if you had watched OSU or followed them, you would have known the were susceptible of losing a game. They have flaws in their defense and have no run game to fall back on when Weeden and the passing game fails. That's why they are worse than both LSU and Bama. Not because they lost to ISU. We all know anyone can win on any given day.

[The_Mango55]

But if you had watched OSU or followed them, you would have known the were susceptible of losing a game. They have flaws in their defense and have no run game to fall back on when Weeden and the passing game fails. That's why they are worse than both LSU and Bama. Not because they lost to ISU. We all know anyone can win on any given day.

Your argument contradicts itself. Everyone is susceptible to losing a game, as you noted in your last line. I've watched a few OK State games this year, and have seen an offense so overpowering that a few defeciencies on defense doesn't prevent it from being great.

The NY Giants are probably most balanced overall team left in the NFL playoffs, but they are still nowhere near the best.

[HeatCheck]

Your argument contradicts itself. Everyone is susceptible to losing a game, as you noted in your last line. I've watched a few OK State games this year, and have seen an offense so overpowering that a few defeciencies on defense doesn't prevent it from being great.

The NY Giants are probably most balanced overall team left in the NFL playoffs, but they are still nowhere near the best.

How so? I see no contradictions.

OSU's offense might be great but the defenses they go up against inflate that. Also, what if Weeden has a bad day, who will they rely on? Their defense? There's no denying their defense can give up some yards. Their run game? Since Hunter left, I don't see how they can rely on this.

You know who else had a great offense, even better than OSU's, the 08 OU team.

[The_Mango55]

I told you how, right there in your last sentence you said "anyone can win on any given day" which renders your statement "you would have known the were susceptible of losing a game" moot.

Anyway this argument is going nowhere, I think the best team is determined by results, you think it's determined by something else. I think the most deserving should be in the championship (disregarding the fact that I don't think a 2 team championship game is meaningful anyway) and you think that people should use 12 games in a field of 120 teams where few teams actually play common games (and when they do it's difficult to tell what it means anyway) to determine the "best" teams.

[HeatCheck]

I told you how, right there in your last sentence you said "anyone can win on any given day" which renders your statement "you would have known the were susceptible of losing a game" moot.

Anyway this argument is going nowhere, I think the best team is determined by results, you think it's determined by something else. I think the most deserving should be in the championship (disregarding the fact that I don't think a 2 team championship game is meaningful anyway) and you think that people should use 12 games in a field of 120 teams where few teams actually play common games (and when they do it's difficult to tell what it means anyway) to determine the "best" teams.

I guess I should have said more susceptible because they have more deficiencies. More than LSU and Bama.

I don't just think the best team is determined by "something else." Yes, results are a part of it, but it's just a by-product. I don't think Kentucky is a bad team because they are 5-7, I think they are a bad team because they have no offense to speak of. And besides Trevathan their defense is really subpar.

[TheRealDeal]

Are we just going to let it go that CatsGrowl said Jefferson is a good QB?

[Panthro]

sec bias

[TheRealDeal]

I didn't watch most of that shitfest, I turned it off when the commentators were showing stats but prefaced it with "If you are a Jordan Jefferson relative, please turn away now" but I will say I think both Stanford and OSU beat both LSU and Bama.

Preseason rankings FTW!!!!!!

[Grammer]

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/01/alabama-lsu_produces_lowest_tv.html

Lowest rated game in BCS national championship history

gives me hope for america

[C47]

I'm done, it's obvious CatsGrowl knows better then anyone else on this board....it's obvious he knows what good football is and the rest of the American public doesn't. You know, since the title game had the lowest rankings of any BCS championship ever....

You have to understand that your opinion isn't reflective of what the smart people think. That isn't implying you're dumb, but it could imply you don't know what you're talking about.

You have to understand, that anyone can have an opinion and that doesn't make anybody's opinion more valid then the next. They're still opinions, they mean jack poo....

[Cat'sGrowl]

So they shouldn't have put the two best teams in the NCG.

Interesting theory.

This has got to be getting embarassing for you.

You come into this thread, put up petty arguments that I then proceed to destroy, you duck out when the battle is lost, and then return only later to spew the same nonsense.

Alright whatever your name is, provide me with one reason why the two best teams in the nation shouldn't have played in the NCG. This should be simple enough for you (I hope-I really did try to put it in your level)