Hurney Would Have My Vote for GM of the Year

[Way Truth Life]

Hurney Bobble

[CRA]

I get it. In 2010, 8 starters are allowed to walk. No FA are brought in to replace them. College players and practice squad players take starting roles. None of our true starters receive contract extensions. Fox is told that it is his last year and that he must play the players he is given. Richardson's plan to dump all pre-lockout contracts had nothing to do with the Panther's failures on the field.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Fox wasn't given a roster he wanted....I get that.

2010 roster was too talented to go 2-14. Fox had a big hand in the record despite the FO clearly making him a lameduck. He still had a decent defense, still had a great backfield, still had a strong OL, still had Steve Smith.

Look no farther than week 2 and Fox essentially dooming the season going to a QB he knew was signicantly worse than Moore.....for his part in the mess. Fox is not free from blame from that 2 win season.....he went out implenting his own agenda.

[ground_corn_in_a_bowl]

Most of the players tanked it that season as well. Smith did. There was a thread about it.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Hurney Bobble

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[CRA]

Most of the players tanked it that season as well. Smith did. There was a thread about it.

yeah, too bad Smith's production was comparable in 2010 when Clausen wasn't playing to the rest of his career here......

Fox tanked the season for his own reasons....he did that by benching a QB he didn't love in week 2 and destroing the basis of what the entire offseason had been built around.

Nothing to suggest that D was "tanking it", Stewart, Williams, or Goodson....or the OL. Fox put in a QB he knew wasn't the best option and watched things implode.....all the while having the ability to sit back and claim well this is what you wanted on the field (not my fault). Carolina winning 2 games wasn't the FO's fault....that was Fox's. FO is to be blamed for a pointless season.

[SauceBoss]

Players got hurt, no attempt to fill holes, got lucky with Kearse and the other guy when we had absolutely no choice to bring in some bodies. Senn panned out. I'm no gonna say you have valid points, but the blind squirrel occasionally gets his nut.

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Forbes???

How does Polian rank once we count this seasons record for Indy? That's his team as well.

Hmm, most of those rankings forget to link the GM to the elite QB that plays for that team. Chicken-egg. If you have an elite QB, then you can spend time filling in holes on the team instead of always looking for your offensive leader. Geez.

As for Hurney, it's the trades that drove me crazy. Don't trade away your picks.

I just want a GM to not do stupid things that set back a franchise.

Sean Gilbert trade comes to mind.

[beckersteen]

I love how he front loaded some of those signings last year.

[SCarpanther]

Hurney is quite possibly the worst gm in the league. Cam Newton saved his job and reputation this year. trading picks for armanti when we could have drafted a dt or something, add on mr. brown and it felt like we didn't have a 1st rd draft pick for about three years although i believe it was just two. not to mention, how about that contract he signed Jake when he had not even played a down after his surgery.... talk about throwing money down the drain

[bleys]

Hurney is quite possibly the worst gm in the league. Cam Newton saved his job and reputation this year. trading picks for armanti when we could have drafted a dt or something, add on mr. brown and it felt like we didn't have a 1st rd draft pick for about three years although i believe it was just two. not to mention, how about that contract he signed Jake when he had not even played a down after his surgery.... talk about throwing money down the drain

AE was his only bad trade... the rest were a sad attempt to save Fox's job... without considering that, then you're opinion on the matter is leaving out very important details...

that includes keeping Peppers, despite the cap room, and resigning Jake to allow tagging Pep..

[panthers55]

Forbes ranks Polian #2.

Remember. Richardson promised the PSL owners a Superbowl in 10 years. Polian nearly delivered. Polian did what Richardson asked for and then Richardson realized that was not the correct way to build a team. How is that Polian's fault? Polian obviously showed that he can build teams (IE Buffalo Bills and Indianapolis Colts). Polian is the best in the business and Richardson was lucky to have him, but you are correct, Polian would never work for Richardson again. Polian does not do the bobble head very well and Richardson only wants bobble heads in positions of management.

Forbes is a money magazine not a football talent magazine. If Polian is so wonderful then why was he fired a week ago. Should we believe a money magazine or his current boss as to his greatness?

Polian had nothing to do with our Superbowl in 2003. He did have a little to do with the playoff win against Dallas in 1996 but the cost of that was a decimated team for a number of year when all the FAs he brought in to win now were unable to play, got old, or were replaced by younger guys.

The Buffalo Bills were built 20 years ago, the formula for doing that then, may not apply now. How long does he get a pass? And as for Indy I think we all know after this season who was responsible for their success and it wasn't Polian. When you can lose one player and go from perennial contender to the number 1 pick in the draft it shows that much of their success was built on one player not a team. Look by contrast at the Patriots who won 11 games the year that Brady went down for the season.

Polian was a good GM but whether he is a good GM is debatable. You are right though, Polian would only go where he has total control and Richardson like most owners won't let that happen as they should. When you own a bilion dollar business you don't just turn it over to anybody without having final say.

[panthers55]

AE was his only bad trade... the rest were a sad attempt to save Fox's job... without considering that, then you're opinion on the matter is leaving out very important details...

that includes keeping Peppers, despite the cap room, and resigning Jake to allow tagging Pep..

What is amazing is that after explaining things in threads for years and beating it up ad nauseum, you get guys on here who don't have a clue and obviously don't understand what happened the past few years. We ought to have a quick compilation of threads from the past several years and make it required reading with a quiz at the end which you have to pass in order to post here. It would raise the understanding around here immensely.

[CRA]

AE was his only bad trade... the rest were a sad attempt to save Fox's job... without considering that, then you're opinion on the matter is leaving out very important details...

that includes keeping Peppers, despite the cap room, and resigning Jake to allow tagging Pep..

E. Brown? Not sure you can put that on him just trying to save Fox's job. Horrific use of a first rounder.

[panthers55]

Fox had little to no control over the 2009 or 2010 drafts.

I think he had a lot of say over the 2009 draft and when they only won 7 games, Richardson stepped in and took over in 2010. I agree that Fox had little to no say in 2010.