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Hurney Would Have My Vote for GM of the Year

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I came across this thing called sarcasm. It's new to me and I was just trying it out for the 1st time. I'm not sure if I did it right, so any tips on how to effectively master it is welcome.

Don't you love people who read the op then skip to the last page. Best laugh I've had all day.

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From 2001 forward...

1st Round Talent: Dan Morgan, Julius Peppers, Jordan Gross, Chris Gamble, Thomas Davis, Deangelo Williams, Jon Beason, Jonathan Stewart, Jeff Otah, Cam Newton

Early Rounds: Kris Jenkins (2), Steve Smith (3), Will Witherspoon (3), Travelle Wharton (3?), James Anderson (3), Ryan Kalil (2), Charles Johnson (3), Charles Godfrey (3), Dan Connor (3), Brandon Lafell (3)

Late Round Gems: Ricky Manning (4), Geoff Hangartner (5?), Tony Fiametta (4?), Greg Hardy (6) *still think he will be a huge success next year*, David Gettis (6)

Say what you want, but the man is on point with his 1st round picks, and finding talent and depth later. He had one really bad draft year...2009. I think his successes far exceed his mistakes.

Not to mention he is a cap king. You can count on my vote, if it were real.

How many times does it have to be said that Hurney didn't draft Steve Smith? Jesus christ.

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I'm not saying that Hurney is the best GM in the league, but I can't think of a GM that did as well as he did this past year considering all the circumstances.

This is a year-to-year league, and what Hurney accomplished in 2011 was the equivalent of hitting a walk-off grand slam with 2 outs & 2 strikes in the 9th Inning regarding this year's draft.

First off, while Richardson surely had final say, Hurney's decision making process in bringing in Rivera (and subsequently Chudzinski and McDermitt) seems to be moving the team in the right direction. The vast improvement of the team, especially on the offensive side of the ball, is unprecedented.

There was going to be little to no offseason. People said it would be a waste to spend a pick on a QB like Newton who was not NFL ready b/c they would need to sit a year and we would be picking at the very top of the draft again.

Beyond those concerns, which were reasonable, you had Newton getting bashed for no reason more than any other NFL prospect I can ever remember. There were many fans, including many here, who thought Newton would be a collosal mistake.

At the very least, many others like myself questioned the practicality of it since we had major needs of defense and would likely be picking top 5 again. Most people believed Newton had NFL QB caliber talent and freakish athleticism but would need at least a year or more to be able to read defenses, etc.

However, in doing exhaustive research of Newton, Hurney came to the conclusion Newton had the potential to justify being a #1 draft pick, and then Hurney had the balls to pull the trigger on Newton.

That decision did not come without criticism in April, so it shouldn't go without high praise now. Beyond being voted as Offensive Rookie if the Year in a couple of weeks, Newton has had arguably the best rookie season of any player ever.

Beyond just Newton, though, Hurney had a lot of issues regarding whether Steve Smith would stay in Carolina, resigning Charles Johnson and Deangelo Williams, upgrading on the offensive and defensive sides of the ball after last years debacle.

While Hurney will not win a national award for GM of the year (fair enough b/c that award should go to a playoff team), I do believe this was Hurney's best year except maybe 2003.

And despite the hatred on this board, Hurney is not an awful GM. He had made in my opinion 3 awful decisions in the past few years: 1) Not getting anything for Peppers, 2) Trading up for Everrette Brown, & 3) Trading up for Armanti Edwards.

I don't even think the whole Delhomme restructing/resigning was that bad b/c they just dumped all the bad salary money last year, so it's not like it hurt the team for years.

But I think this year has gone a lot way to erase some of the more recent bad decisions.

For example, how many draft picks is a franchise QB worth? People are saying Luck or RG3 could be worth 3 1st Rounders and maybe other later round picks.

Brandon LaFell looks like legitimate #2 WR, and with Gettis returning we may have a very solid WR corp. Hurney stole Greg Olsen for a 3rd rounder. Charles Johnson played up to his contract. Deangelo averaged over 5 yards per carry again this year. Ryan Kalil played like an All-Pro. Steve Smith returned to the Pro Bowl.

Hate on Hurney if you want, but I bet he is sleeping well at night these days. He has a lot more job security than a lot of people, and at least for this year, he earned it.

I disagree. Alot of things your giving him credit for may have come from above him or below him but his name is accredited to. Not to mention overpaying of some athletes big time.

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I only blame Hurney for the terrible trades in the past few year but they were very significant because of the total wipe out of vet players that our team had in 2010. If your going to blowup your whole team you should not trade away your draft picks also.

Well that and his refusal to even entertain the idea of bringing in more than one good FA.

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I only blame Hurney for the terrible trades in the past few year but they were very significant because of the total wipe out of vet players that our team had in 2010. If your going to blowup your whole team you should not trade away your draft picks also.

Well that and his refusal to even entertain the idea of bringing in more than one good FA.

would it be possible for you to see the context of those trades, as well as who the is authority on signing FAs?

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I only blame Hurney for the terrible trades in the past few year but they were very significant because of the total wipe out of vet players that our team had in 2010. If your going to blowup your whole team you should not trade away your draft picks also.

Well that and his refusal to even entertain the idea of bringing in more than one good FA.

in fairness, he did bring in Shockey, Edwards.....and traded for Olsen. Better talent than Marty normally brings in

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Yeah, the decision to draft Cam is the biggest thing in Hurney's favor, but it was also by far the most important decision for the franchise this year(and maybe any other year). And it's easy to sit here and say "you're supposed to get a great player with the #1 pick" but at the time, at least 60% of the people on this board were totally sure Cam would be a bust. So were most so-called draft experts on TV. Now people sit here and say "sure, he picked the guy who just had the greatest rookie season ever at the most important position, but some of his 3rd rounders have been busts, let's fire him!"

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