Michael Brockers, DT, LSU

[frash.exe]

guys, when it comes to DT all we really have is a bunch of good rotational guys and no starters

[rayzor]

guys, when it comes to DT all we really have is a bunch of good rotational guys and no starters

agreed and we can't be content with that or sugar coat it.

we need to have at least one legit starter at each position.

for all our holes, DT remains our weakest spot.

there may be worse starters on our team, but as a whole DT is the weakest overall position.

[Gin and Juice]

This guy helps alleviate our DT woes more than an additional rookie pick!

[Gin and Juice]

From the Bears to the Chargers.....he follows Rivera!

But it was Chargers defensive coordinator Ron Rivera and line coach Don Johnson who truly believed Garay was a diamond in the rough.

"Don Johnson, (defensive backs coach) Steve Wilks and I were all in Chicago when he was there (in 2006-07), and his athleticism was undeniable," Rivera said. "He was a wrestler in high school and in college, so he has great balance and therefore doesn't spend a lot of time on the ground. He has tremendous strength and drive as well. You combine those three elements and it provides the foundation for a quality football player."

At the time, the Chargers were looking for a player to plug gaps after longtime starter Jamal Williams was lost for the season with injury.

[Jackofalltrades]

We don't really know what we have at DT right now.

[rayzor]

i would be happy if we got garay and i could see garay wanting to get back with rivera. i think brockers would be better long term, but garay added to what we have would be a huge upgrade. a healthy ron edwards would be good as well for a year or two.

i just want us to get the best player possible wherever we can without feeling pressured to reach for players because we are desperate to fill a specific need.

[rayzor]

oh. there's also some giant OT the chargers picked up this year that i would love to bring here.

i have no problems raiding the chargers. much better than raiding the browns year after year.

[Gin and Juice]

If Ron was smart enough to see the potential in Garay after he was shot down by several teams makes me feel confident about Fua and McClain. Obviously he sees something there that us fans do not.

[Woodie]

i would be happy if we got garay and i could see garay wanting to get back with rivera. i think brockers would be better long term, but garay added to what we have would be a huge upgrade. a healtfilla need/hy ron edwards would be good as well for a year or two.

i just want us to get the best player possible wherever we can without feeling pressured to reach for players because we are desperate to fill a specific need.

I'd love Garay as well. But one thing we desperately need is someone that can get consistent pressure up the middle, and I don't know that Garay can do that for us. I think in a lot of ways he'd be duplicating what we expect out of Edwards...a run defender that can take up blockers. So, I would have no problem bringing in Garay, but I would still take Brockers since he is expected to develop into a very good pass rusher as well.

[Woodie]

If Ron was smart enough to see the potential in Garay after he was shot down by several teams makes me feel confident about Fua and McClain. Obviously he sees something there that us fans do not.

I agree. I think we fans tend to get way too impatient at times. Now I have always felt both Fua and McClain will eventually be good players for us, but I was never deluded enough to think we got another Suh who would be dominant from day one. So, I'm all for giving them time to develop. The only question I have is whether either can ever become the dynamic force we need up the middle. That's why I'd be all for bringing in Brockers. From everything I have heard and seen, he has that potential.

[rayzor]

yeah, it just depends on if we want to settle for being "ok" on the Dline or have the balls to be dominant.

brockers will be the guy to put us over the top in that category.

[Panther53521]

at 6'6 just have Brockers push up the middle and once he gets his hands up Brees will never see the middle of the field ever again

[Lout]

The Giants have stock piled Dlinemen.. I would not mind drafting Brockers in the 1st, and another pass rusher in the 2nd.. maybe a OLB that can rush the passer like Ronnell Lewis or someone we can use like Von Miller.

The Giants invested several high round picks to get their Dline:

2011 - Marvin Austin - 2nd Round

2010 - Jason Pierre-Paul - 1st Round

2010 - Linval Joseph - 2nd Round

2006 - Matthias Kiwanuka - 1st Round

2006 - Barry Cofield - 4th Round

2005 - Justin Tuck - 3rd Round

2003 - William Joseph - 1st Round

2003 - Osi Umenyiora - 2nd Round

When is the last time we invested a 1st or 2nd Round pick on Dline? We have spent several 3rd round picks on Dline, but I did not list them.. many of them takes a couple years to develop including Charles Johnson.

2009: Everrette Brown - 2nd Round

2002: Julius Peppers - 1st Round

2001: Kris Jenkins - 2nd Round

1999: Mike Rucker - 2nd Round

Time to draft Dline Hurney! We are overdue.

[DaCityKats]

exactly when you expect so much from your front 4 or expect your pressure to come from your front 4, you need to have invested into some studs up front. and right now the panthers have 1 and a possible stud on the DL.