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Free Agency 2012


Matthias

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All these draft threads are making me sick. So let's talk about players with experience. I just looked, and even though the Giants probably will not let him walk (unless he is unrestricted, of course I don't know if they can slap the tag on him in this case), Terell Thomas will be a free agent this year. After coming off an ACL injury this year, he would probably sign a one year deal with his next team.

Carlos Rogers will demand big money, as well as Brent Grimes. Terrell Thomas looks to be the best corner out there who wouldn't demand this kind of money right away. We get him, we can focus on other needs on the d-line. Yet as I said, the Giants would probably re-sign him unless he has some say so about that.

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we are effectively over the cap entering the offseason

we're going to have to make some cuts/restructures just to be able to sign our own draft picks

then some more just to resign our own mediocre free agents

if the guy wants more than the league minimum chances are we're not signing him

might as well make a thread about how we should draft kalil at 8th/9th overall

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we are effectively over the cap entering the offseason

we're going to have to make some cuts/restructures just to be able to sign our own draft picks

then some more just to resign our own mediocre free agents

if the guy wants more than the league minimum chances are we're not signing him

might as well make a thread about how we should draft kalil at 8th/9th overall

lol don't challenge matthias to somehow bridge this discussion with a way to get Kalil

"hey guys it's Matthias with another fantastic mock draft. In this one let's trade Wharton, Greg Hardy (again) and Chris Gamble along with our 1st round pick to Minnesota and draft Matt Kalil. This way we clear cap space to sign Mario Williams"

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