The league needs to get rid of illegal contact altogether

[bigdog10]

Was thinking about starting this thread. I'm not a fan of what this league is turning into. Watching a saints or patriots game is like watching an arena league game.

[Chimera]

I think teams will stop using so many undersized DBs in the next few years. Right now Chris Gamble is the giant of our secondary. In a few years, he will be a midget. The only way to slow down some of these receivers is to really eff them up within 5 yards.

The Panthers are one of many teams that have had small, quick DBs for several years now and it isn't working. I think teams are figuring that out.

[TheSeagull]

I think teams will stop using so many undersized DBs in the next few years. Right now Chris Gamble is the giant of our secondary. In a few years, he will be a midget. The only way to slow down some of these receivers is to really eff them up within 5 yards.

The Panthers are one of many teams that have had small, quick DBs for several years now and it isn't working. I think teams are figuring that out.

Caught me before I could say it.

Think about how many freaks are on offense? I wouldn't be surprised to see a 7 foot 280 lb TE who runs a 4.6 come out somewhere. Jimmy Graham, Gronkowski, Megatron, and that's just receivers. I think that most of the offense that challenges the secondary has turned into freaks in the past 5-7 years and defense hasn't.

Try to name 3 absolute freaks that play in the secondary? Hell, I can only name a few inhuman players on defense in general. The size of defenses needs to springboard to meet the size of offenses now. Nobody should expect a "normal" linebacker at 6'4'' 240 to try and cover any of those guys I listed before. It's why I think we'll see some linebacker sized corners soon. It's just a matter of some of those offensive freaks wanting to play defense.

[Wither]

How about the offensive side of the league has just changed in physical athletic ability and football knowledge and skill? This will cause defensives to change strategy and personnel and once again the defenses will dominate and then it will shift in the other direction again. Cycles.

[bleys]

How about the offensive side of the league has just changed in physical athletic ability and football knowledge and skill? This will cause defensives to change strategy and personnel and once again the defenses will dominate and then it will shift in the other direction again. Cycles.

offensive side of the ball saw a lot of rule changes that helped them more so than athletic ability in the last 5 years...

[beastson]

^ I think Cam disagrees sir

[bleys]

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[DaveThePanther2008]

I have said for a couple years now I feel the NFL is now the grown up AFL league. It is great the league is scoring more. But 41 points and still lose... Come on. The offenses are advance you gotta give the defense so leverage.

I would like to see some arm checking allow. Seems the offensive player can push and shove but if a defensive player does it, it is a penalty. I was watching a game after the Panther game (where Jimmy Graham push Senn away) and saw a defensive player nailed with a flag because him and the receiver were locked up in arms. As much the offensive players fault as the defensive.

All this garbage during the Goodall regime.

[MWCarolina]

i think that the illegal contact should be kept in and the defenseless player thing should go away or change it and say if it's helmet to helmet then that's the penalty and even have a review to see if that's right.

[panthers55]

There were 2 teams that allowed less than 15 points a game and another 5 more that gave up less than 20 points a contest. Seems to me that these teams have figured out how to live within the rules and flourish. Every time there is a significant rule change, there is an outcry by those who predict the demise of football is nigh and harken back to the good old days.

I hope instead of complaining, that our coaches are watching the successful ones and emulating what they can while staying true to the personnel we have. Seems to me we need to do on defense what we did on offense. Identify our key people and mold the defense to their strengths. Assuming we can stay healthy for a change.

[tiger7_88]

I'm OK with DB's bumping and being physical as long as they are not also grabbing and holding.

And I agree that the rules today don't allow that... and its a crock.

[Brandon]

My problem with these rules are that they are judgement calls, and give an automatic first down. The worst offenders are that some offensive pass interference calls are treated as illegal contact by refs, which is completely absurd.

[Miaoww]

I think teams will stop using so many undersized DBs in the next few years. Right now Chris Gamble is the giant of our secondary. In a few years, he will be a midget. The only way to slow down some of these receivers is to really eff them up within 5 yards.

The Panthers are one of many teams that have had small, quick DBs for several years now and it isn't working. I think teams are figuring that out.

So basically if you're under 6' you won't be allowed to play in the NFL? 'Cos that's the way it's going. Give me a feisty, athletic 5'10" corner over a 6' corner any day of the week.

It's basically pitch and catch at this point. Can't touch them at the line. Can't run stride for stride with them (lest they give up PI for breathing on the WR), can't compete for the ball in the air and can't try to dislodge the ball with a tackle.

What's the point?

[Davidson Deac II]

I think teams will stop using so many undersized DBs in the next few years. Right now Chris Gamble is the giant of our secondary. In a few years, he will be a midget. The only way to slow down some of these receivers is to really eff them up within 5 yards.

The Panthers are one of many teams that have had small, quick DBs for several years now and it isn't working. I think teams are figuring that out.

Maybe, but I think we might see teams move to smaller and faster linebackers to compensate for the increased amount of passing. We might start seeing players that would have been safeties a few years ago playing linebacker. Which might bring back the running game a little bit.