A Number of Good Panther Blurbs from PFF

[redbuddha]

C'mon man you know The Golden Calf of Bristol will win Rookie of the year next year again. (Sarcasm)

[rayzor]

The last time I checked, a LB was neither expected to take his team to victory week in and out, nor was all eyes on every move he made.

So, no they are not being very objective. There is no way you are being objective if you feel what is expected of QB is the same as what is expected of a LB.

Also, when we're talking about those who make a living blogging or writing for the sake of getting our attention and playing on our emotions, the word "objective" isn't always the best adjective used to describe their thought pattern.

I want to see if Andrew Luck is half as successful as Cam next season will these folks be as "objective" with him in regards to the ROTY award.

you're not being very objective.

[rainwater]

How do they determine when a OLB makes mistakes? To say Cam has made a plethora of mistakes compared to the other guys is just a ridiculous statement. He is a QB where his mistakes are easily measured. Shoddy reporting if you ask me to make that comparison.

And btw, there is no such thing as Rookie of the Year. There is a Offensive ROTY and Defensive ROTY.

[Wither]

I don't think you can construction positions. I think it's more about the impact a player has made on his team when it comes to ROTY.

[nickzz]

not when you are trying to be as objective as possible.

you can't be absolutely objective in this case simply because each position IS valued differently. the only objectivity that matters here is that no one is picking cam because they like cam.

either way, it's kind of absurd to have cam at #4. no one else is rewriting the record books their rookie year, with the exception of (possibly) von miller.

[JawnyBlaze]

I love PFF. I don't always *like* what they have to say, but I find it difficult to argue. I see where they're coming from with the RotY stats, but considering the history implications and value of the QB position there's really no way to deny Cam as the frontrunner by miles. If you're just looking at it from a black and white stats perspective, it's more debatable.

[Brandon]

The only problem with PFF is that the writers generally don't tend to be very objective, and will also gravitate towards certain teams regardless of what else is going on in the NFL.

[Fiz]

The only problem with PFF is that the writers generally don't tend to be very objective, and will also gravitate towards certain teams regardless of what else is going on in the NFL.

Yeah would love an example of this

[rayzor]

^^^^^seconded.

[tiger7_88]

When you make a mistake as a quarterback, the entire world sees it.

When you make a mistake as a linebacker, sometimes it gets explained as "the defense failed".

I seriously doubt they are breaking down individual film, checking with the coaches of the particular team, seeing what defense was called, and then checking to see if the linebacker/defensive tackle/defensive end/safety/corner missed his *specific* assignment.

In other words, it may be a great site and maybe even the "best" NFL site, but if they think they can compare quarterbacks to linebackers just through what they see on a telecast or on youtube vids, they are smoking some good stuff.

[Fiz]

I seriously doubt they are breaking down individual film, checking with the coaches of the particular team, seeing what defense was called, and then checking to see if the linebacker/defensive tackle/defensive end/safety/corner missed his *specific* assignment.

PFF actually has spotters that watch every single game and grade every single position.

If you'd bothered to read their description, they have a position wide scoring system they use to compare players. Cam is heavily penalized for his turnovers.

sorry you can't read must make buying liquor store porn difficult.

[Miguel O'Hara]

Any site that doesn't have Cam as the run away ROTY simply can't be taken seriously. Don't see anyone else shattering records like Cam is.

[Delhommey]

If Von Miller beats out Cam for offensive ROTY I'm gonna be PISSED.

[mario]

Cornerbacks

Brent Grimes (ATL), Carlos Rogers (SF), and Chris Gamble (CAR)

Grimes is a playmaker who simply hates to have balls completed into his vicinity. For that reason he sometimes gambles but this season the risk/reward ratio has been well in his favor with a league low 42% of passes thrown his way completed. Rogers began the year brilliantly and has dropped off a little of late but is still better than most; he’s made more big plays but has also given up more yards.

If I’m really honest I think our third selection may be the best of the lot as quarterbacks have stayed away from Gamble. In 348 passing plays he’s only been targeted 52 times and given up only 22 receptions. Quarterbacks throwing into his coverage have a passer rating of only 48.4 (second only to Darrelle Revis’ 45.4)

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/12/23/pffs-nfc-pro-bowl-squad/