I'm hoping Smitty gets snubbed for the probowl....

[DaCityKats]

^^ your name explains it all. 30 tds from a rookie is pretty impressive.

[GSQUARED]

Zod's thread quality has taken a nose dive lately

[rainwater]

Many of Cams rushing TDs could have been made by handing the ball off to a back.

If it were that easy then handing it off should of worked last year.

[nickzz]

All S.S needs is 123 yards to surpass his numbers from 08 which was 1421

Here's hoping he gets 100 this Sunday

1421 in 14 games~

[JawnyBlaze]

Ace35 mentioned throwing numbers when whytogo mentioned Eli. If you are using overall numbers then it is pretty close, if you are just referring to throwing like Ace did then Eli is a retarded comparison.

Yea I know. I wasn't referring to Ace's post in particular, but I see posts very often saying "Cam only has 17 TDs to 16 INTs" and things like that, COMPLETELY discounting his running TDs. Can't do that. Cam has 30 TDs. 30 TDs is 30 TDs. Even if half his TD runs are 1 yard plunges, someone else wouldn't necessarily have been able to get them. Like Rivera says, when Cam runs it in it's 11 on 11, instead of 10 on 11 when he hands it off and stands back to watch.

[chef17]

Yea I know. I wasn't referring to Ace's post in particular, but I see posts very often saying "Cam only has 17 TDs to 16 INTs" and things like that, COMPLETELY discounting his running TDs. Can't do that. Cam has 30 TDs. 30 TDs is 30 TDs. Even if half his TD runs are 1 yard plunges, someone else wouldn't necessarily have been able to get them. Like Rivera says, when Cam runs it in it's 11 on 11, instead of 10 on 11 when he hands it off and stands back to watch.

I completely agree. I wasn't trying to say they didn't count, just trying to use the numbers in context. I didn't know if you were specifically talking to me in your post so I was just explaining why I was using passing numbers for both. But when talking about Cam in general yeah both numbers should be included.

[chef17]

If it were that easy then handing it off should of worked last year.

Last year we didn't get in the red zone enough for it to work

[JawnyBlaze]

I completely agree. I wasn't trying to say they didn't count, just trying to use the numbers in context. I didn't know if you were specifically talking to me in your post so I was just explaining why I was using passing numbers for both. But when talking about Cam in general yeah both numbers should be included.

An analogy I thought of was Marshall Faulk. If Faulk only got credit for his rushing yards, he wouldn't have made the Pro Bowl nearly as much, probably wouldn't be in the HoF either. Also can't say "well if Faulk wasn't catching those TD passes, Tory Holt or Isaac Bruce would have been". It's the total package that makes players like Cam and Faulk special.

Not trying to pick on you at all chef, just illustrating our point :)

And yea, I just compared Cam to Marshall Faulk :)

[Jangler]

i have offically given up on this fanbase.

Why is that? it's young and probably not in the top 20 in size, but I have a feeling it will going threw a growing spurt soon.

[Guest Day24Day7]

I Swear ...

"Haters" have the Best Job in the World!

I bet if Teeee-Bo (you know the 'White Guy' with Sub-Par numbers to Cam) had Newtons numbers the Media Hype would be worst than it already is.

So Cam has interceptions. Big F**king Deal.

Did you see Bradshaws numbers from his rookie year?

Did you see Mannings' (Payton or Eli ... either one ... really doesn't matter) numbers from his rookie year?

Remember how much 49er fans Hated Joe Montana his rookie year? Ever take a look at his numbers. No? Do it!

Phil Simms. Remember him? 'Tha Big Tuna' hated him his Rookie, 2nd, and 3rd Years with the Giants. H*ll, Simms was almost let go before the season that year. He was Horrible his rookie year. Go back and check the record.

Ever heard of a guy named Brett Farve?

You know projected 1st ballot HOF'er Brett Farve?

The man who has Thrown more Interceptions that any quarterback in the History of the NFL ... Brett Farve?

Remember his rookie year? Probably not. It was 'Forgettable'.

Steve Young? Remember Him? Remember his first 3 years in Tampa? No?

Well no need to. He was horrible his entire time in Tampa. He was Suspect playing behind Montana until Joe's last year. If Young (and Seifert) had not 'Inherited' a Superbowl contender ... Neither would be more than a passing thought in the annuals of NFL history.

How about Elway? He's a HOF'er. Surely his rookie numbers are record setting? NOT! He struggled his rookie year and every year after until he had an 'All Pro' running back to take the pressure OFF of him.

Marino?

2210 yrds passing his Rookie Year. 58.45% completion for Rookie Year.

At this rate ... Newton is gonna be in the HOF.

No QB in the History of the game has had the year he has had. Period. So all you Haters can KICK ROCKS.

And if some think I'm playing the 'Race Card' ... I not. I'm Playing the Whole D*mn Deck!

[rayzor]

^^ :lol: