Merill Hoge: "Panthers offense maybe the scariest offense in all of football"

[Newton's Law]

Are you being sarcastic? Because that dude was terrible and kicked off ESPN for multiple dick picks.

He also called John Clayton the cryptkeeper which I thought was funny as hell.

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Merill Hoge dresses like a retard.

He is nothing but Steeler trash.

[TheRealDeal]

No SF? And why only 5 spots?

NFC West is likely only getting 1 spot so their division winner + those 9 teams fighting for 5 other spots.

[mav1234]

Considering our offense requires a QB to stick in the pocket and make deep vertical throws....I don't see how you can argue Clausen wouldn't implode it. Jeff Davidson sucked as an OC....but at least Cam would have sat in the pocket and threw to Smitty. Once you hit those it opens up more.

Obviously the offense would not be identical with Clausen, but that doesn't mean it would be 31st or 32nd. You are basically saying that Clausen would have made absolutely no progress at all, which I completely disagree with since what limited experience we had with him in the preseason suggested he had made some, if not a ton, of progress.

I did a breakdown before but Clausen's attempts actually compared favorably to the offense in 2007 that Chud ran. Long and the short of it is that while I think the offense does work better with Cam and is more potent with Cam for a variety of reasons, I think it is silly to think that Clausen would have not grown at all... considering we have some small amount of evidence directly to the contrary.

[Marguide]

Obviously the offense would not be identical with Clausen, but that doesn't mean it would be 31st or 32nd. You are basically saying that Clausen would have made absolutely no progress at all, which I completely disagree with since what limited experience we had with him in the preseason suggested he had made some, if not a ton, of progress.

I did a breakdown before but Clausen's attempts actually compared favorably to the offense in 2007 that Chud ran. Long and the short of it is that while I think the offense does work better with Cam and is more potent with Cam for a variety of reasons, I think it is silly to think that Clausen would have not grown at all... considering we have some small amount of evidence directly to the contrary.

Don't get me wrong. I am sure Chud brings a tremendous amount to our offense. Anderson could probably run it at least well enough to get us in the "average" or slightly below range. Clausen, not so much.

But Newton is the toy that really lets Chud use all his tricks, or at least many of them, as I am sure he still has some stuff up his sleeve for next year and beyond.

[mav1234]

I do agree that the offense is completely different with Cam under center. I just think that he is one of (perhaps the largest, but not the sole) reason we went from 32nd last year all the way to top 10.

Wouldn't be the same offense with anyone else under center, but that doesn't mean we would be stuck at 32nd again without him is all I think.

[Peppers90 NC]

He left out the most important bit: IN THE FIRST HALF.

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Don't get me wrong. I am sure Chud brings a tremendous amount to our offense. Anderson could probably run it at least well enough to get us in the "average" or slightly below range. Clausen, not so much.

But Newton is the toy that really lets Chud use all his tricks, or at least many of them, as I am sure he still has some stuff up his sleeve for next year and beyond.

Can't wait for the off-season and the development of the entire package. The more each player's strengths are worked into the playbook, the better....I doubt we've seen the playbook used from cover to cover yet....

[chef17]

It's pretty bad when the only evidence to support Cam being the reason for our turnaround is to compare him to Jimmy. Yes when you take any decent QB and insert Clausen the offense is going to suck. Cam is a huge part of the turnaround, but that has as much to do with how bad Jimmy is as it does with Cam being good.

[rayzor]

Hard to tell one year to the next but....

Home

Dallas Cowboys

New York Giants

Oakland Raiders

San Diego Chargers

NFC West Same Place Finisher

Atlanta Falcons (Div.)

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Div.)

New Orleans Saints (Div.)

Away

Philadelphia Eagles

Washington Redskins

Denver Broncos

Kansas City Cheifs

NFC North Same Place Finisher

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Div.)

New Orleans Saints (Div.)

Atlanta Falcons (Div.)

you might as well write bears away and cards at home in there.

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The Cards again????They're like a divisional foe at this point....

[PhillyB]

panthers vs. cardinals has turned into a legitimate rivalry. the games seem to go back and forth every time.

[rayzor]

The Cards again????They're like a divisional foe at this point....

yeah, we keep on finishing the same ranking as them when we aren't playing the whole NFCW.

at least this next year it's at home.

[rayzor]

panthers vs. cardinals has turned into a legitimate rivalry. the games seem to go back and forth every time.

we're 8-3 against them.

since 2001 we've played them every year except for '06.