Quick Tebow thread

[chef17]

I don't mind you having an opinion, but I do get annoyed if your opinion is about something you think I feel/believe about our quarterback when you're wrong.

But he knows exactly how you feel about Cam. You blame Cam for every single loss this season, even the ones where you said he did enough to win but the defense let the team down :rolleyes:

[TheRealDeal]

Dude is like the new Catdaddy....someone tell me they remember him

[fjblair]

I think being down, having to throw the football, and being so jittery in the pocket that the OL can't block because you're moving so much for no reason, and then when you do throw a pass, it's so far off the mark there isn't even a player around it, constitutes as a sole reason. Half his completions came off of one drive. That's...pretty bad. Sure, The Golden Calf of Bristol isn't the reason WHY they lost, but he is a large contributing factor, because they didn't have time to run the ball with how much they were down.

Who runs backwards 20 yards and takes the sack? Who?

Think it was 30 yards. It was hard to watch and I'm down on The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[whytogo]

I don't mind you having an opinion, but I do get annoyed if your opinion is about something you think I feel/believe about our quarterback when you're wrong.

Honestly, since I don't know you personally, I can only base my opinion on the postings you have made and judging by those postings, you are way more forgiving with other teams QBs than you are with your own...just saying.

[whytogo]

Well TRD already quoted where you said everyone so no need for me to repeat. And I understand you are entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to show you how stupid and wrong your opinion is.

For instance

Either there is a lot of ranting about Cam or there isn't. Considering you said both, one of those "opinions" is wrong.

It's called sarcasm but it's clear you're way to intelligent to figure that one out.

And who's TRD??? Sorry, I'm not going through this thread looking for his words of wisdom.

[whytogo]

More than half of qb's drafted in the first round don't pan out no matter how much talent is around them. We have been extremely lucky with Cam, in that he has worked out better than most of us thought he would. Fwiw though, first round is just a number. Once they start playing, doesn't matter what round a player is drafted in, its all about how he performs on the field.

From what I saw, The Golden Calf of Bristol can be a accurate passer. He had some very nice throws. He does have a very slow delivery, but thats somewhat negated by his running ability. He will never be great, but he could certainly be good.

I agree with you. I find the whole draft thing very shallow and political. First round QBs or any other players as a matter of fact, are no better or worst than last place ones...Tom Brady can surely attest to that.

But let's be real, The Golden Calf of Bristol is given a lot of chances and if you keep persuading folks to believe that someone is good, they will start appearing good. Same thing with those who are accused of having mechanical issues. The only reason why Cam was perceived to have a whole lot of issues was simply over-exaggeration and those who simply wanted to believe that he wasn't good enough.

It's the same thing you're now having with Luck and RGIII. Luck is presumed to be the "best QB," based on what?

[chef17]

It's called sarcasm but it's clear you're way to intelligent to figure that one out.

And who's TRD??? Sorry, I'm not going through this thread looking for his words of wisdom.

:lol: So you can't find the post directly below yours? Ok let me help you out then

But...But...But...How come when the Panthers lose, everyone is looking for ways to put the blame on your QB's back. The endless ranting over his ints and whatever else they can blame him for is amazing.

Okay...I'll take a survey because you see differently..And please go back and find where I said "everyone" about anything regarding Cam.

Do you know what an opinion is? Something we're both entitled to have.

But let me guess that was more of your sarcasm right?

[mav1234]

Honestly, since I don't know you personally, I can only base my opinion on the postings you have made and judging by those postings, you are way more forgiving with other teams QBs than you are with your own...just saying.

Let me guess, you think the fact I've admitted Cam has had a bad game or two means I think he's garbage or some bullcrap? I have no idea what posts you've read and what posts you've ignored, but I have no problem pointing out where Cam has played well, where he hasn't, where the team has, where the team hasn't.

[mav1234]

I agree with you. I find the whole draft thing very shallow and political. First round QBs or any other players as a matter of fact, are no better or worst than last place ones...Tom Brady can surely attest to that.

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It's the same thing you're now having with Luck and RGIII. Luck is presumed to be the "best QB," based on what?

You are right that as far as being proven NFL players, all drafted players have to prove they are worth a damn in the NFL no matter where they are drafted, but players come in with different skill sets, different abilities that will translate differently at the next level.

As to why people weren't talking about RGIII as much as Luck earlier, probably because last year he didn't have extraordinary stats and he was injured the year before. Remember, Luck's hype skyrocketed last year and has remained high this year... RGIII's hype is really just now starting to roll, but I have heard a lot of positive things about him.

As to what specifically is an advantage Luck has over RGIII in terms of why he should be drafted #1, I'd have to actually know RGIII's game better than I do now, but Luck is considered one of the best pro prospects in a long time due to his combination of football IQ, measurables, work ethic, etc. I haven't seen anyone doubt RGIII, but I know that Luck is considered very "pro ready." However with the success of players coming out of the spread I think the offense he played in is less of a big deal.

I suppose we'll see with the combine and full draft process what ends up happening, but the long and the short of it is that drafting quarterbacks is typically about more than their stats and typically comes from studying multiple years of their work in whatever system they are playing in