Steve Smith takes Cam over Tebow anyday.

[CPcavedweller]

At this point with the way the dline is playing, i'd welcome John Foxs conservative calling, meaning less blitzing. Make TJ force the ball, let the linebackers make their own decisions.

[Showtime]

-Drive 1 defense: Defense got a red-zone FFR and took away the Texan's first drive. W+

-Drive 1 offense: We scored. W

- Drive 2 defense: stop on the second drive W

- Drive 2: Offense responded with a stall. F

- Drive 3 offense: scored touchdown. W

-Drive 3 defense: stopped W

-Drive 4 offense: stalled F

-Drive 4 defense: Interception W

-Drive 5 offense: score W(Fumblerooskie!)

-Drive 5 defense: stopped W

1st half defense: Perfect + on every drive.(2 takeaways)

1st half offense: A (scored on 3, failed on 2. not good enough for A+ or perfect but still a great half)

[-13 Amp-]

but you said a defense doesn't get credit for turnovers, it was the other teams offense being bad, not a defense being good...

[ed bell]

Complete team win today.....needed in several games this year....regardless of your agenda....

[Showtime]

Complete team win today.....needed in several games this year....regardless of your agenda....

Not quite. Superb defensive game. Passable offense. Bad special teams defense. Ok special teams offense. A complete team win is when they all do good. We were imbalanced.

A W is what matters. But really we should be able to put up 28 points even without 3 takeaways. When we start winning 35-30 like the offense we're built to be, then we are doing what we are supposed to be doing.

You guys should really check into Air Coryell and see what we're supposed to be. Defenses were not the stars. When you do it right, defense doesn't carry you. You're not the most efficient offense in the league, but you act like a V8 should. You run hard and fast until you run out of gas, not marathons and today was that. Chud's still trying to figure it out I think. A few nice trick plays today though.

Anyone watching The Golden Calf of Bristol-Brady btw? They just scored again on the Pats.

[mav1234]

So, if our offense was just passable, and we had a YPP of 11.28, does that mean that Green Bay's offense this year has been just passable?

Our offense was pretty good today, especially in the first half, but also in the 4th quarter. 3rd quarter was rough, but it was for our defense, too. Sure, we got turnovers, but every team gets turnovers... and one of those turnovers sealed the game so it's tough to complain about us not putting up enough points from turnovers when it allowed us just to run out the clock, especially when we then moved the ball like 75 yards, and took a knee to end the game. Coulda had more than 28, but we ended the game instead.

We had no punts in the 4th quarter and two huge drives. Only one resulted in points, but the other was just as important to the outcome of the game.

[ed bell]

Not quite. Superb defensive game. Passable offense. Bad special teams defense. Ok special teams offense. A complete team win is when they all do good. We were imbalanced.

A W is what matters. But really we should be able to put up 28 points even without 3 takeaways. When we start winning 35-30 like the offense we're built to be, then we are doing what we are supposed to be doing.

You guys should really check into Air Coryell and see what we're supposed to be. Defenses were not the stars. When you do it right, defense doesn't carry you. Chud's still trying to figure it out I think. A few nice trick plays today though.

Anyone watching The Golden Calf of Bristol-Brady btw?

Great defense, great offense, acceptable ST's, good coaching.....That's a complete win here. Pedestrian ST play will do the job here....I'll take a win in an away game versus a team in contention for the #1 seed regardless of their situation...We've been imbalanced all year....

[mav1234]

Houston has a good defense and we protected the ball and made the most of our opportunities. It was a good game on offense.

Houston's offense has struggled in recent weeks, and our defense really showed up and exploited that.

[mc52beast]

Would you expect him to say "I would rather have T-Bone and a chance to see the p0layoffs"? Of course he is gonna back up Newt...ain't gotta be a rocket scientist to figure that out.

[Showtime]

So, if our offense was just passable, and we had a YPP of 11.28, does that mean that Green Bay's offense this year has been just passable?

Our offense was pretty good today, especially in the first half, but also in the 4th quarter. 3rd quarter was rough, but it was for our defense, too. Sure, we got turnovers, but every team gets turnovers... and one of those turnovers sealed the game so it's tough to complain about us not putting up enough points from turnovers when it allowed us just to run out the clock, especially when we then moved the ball like 75 yards, and took a knee to end the game. Coulda had more than 28, but we ended the game instead.

We had no punts in the 4th quarter and two huge drives. Only one resulted in points, but the other was just as important to the outcome of the game.

I don't know I didn't watch them but probably. By the numbers they looked bad right before the end but I didn't check them. Watching The Golden Calf of Bristol now:)

Already went through all that in the other thread so not gonna do it again. I promise you even a week from now you'll agree my emotions didn't get the best of me during the game and it's pretty objective: http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/74367-quick-team-grades-congratulations-panthers-on-first-win-over-a-winning-team.html

[ed bell]

Really, I love how so many of you just make comments, and offer no explanation. That is graph is 1st down scoring plot. I know this, because I've seen them before. It's not an overall scoring % plot.

It's telling you the likelyhood of scoring a FG or a touchdown if you have a 1st down at that particular location. Naturally if you a 1st down at that location, you're far more likely to go for a touchdown, not a FG.

If you actually plot scores, both of them combined, all you get is one exponential line. It's just another graph Teeray posed that tries to twists facts and try to argue a turnover in your red-zone isn't a killer. Scoring % increases for both touchdowns and FG's the closer you get the the end zone. They never decrease.

Wow...you're not only slow on the uptake, you're slow on the delivery as well...Let me fill you in on what you missed...shocker...Field goal likely-hood decreases as you close in on the goal-line. Imagine that.....seems like the people who have difficulty digesting the reason for that would also have trouble interpreting that graph...

[ed bell]

It's telling you the likelyhood of scoring a FG or a touchdown if you have a 1st down at that particular location. Naturally if you a 1st down at that location, you're far more likely to go for a touchdown, not a FG.

Yeah, depends on where you start...."far more likely"? What are you talking about?

[AceMan]

:lol: at this fool saying "Superb defensive game".

Great win today!

Also, I'll like to add that The Golden Calf of Bristol has a fumble...he's being inefficient today

[whytogo]

So, if our offense was just passable, and we had a YPP of 11.28, does that mean that Green Bay's offense this year has been just passable?

Our offense was pretty good today, especially in the first half, but also in the 4th quarter. 3rd quarter was rough, but it was for our defense, too. Sure, we got turnovers, but every team gets turnovers... and one of those turnovers sealed the game so it's tough to complain about us not putting up enough points from turnovers when it allowed us just to run out the clock, especially when we then moved the ball like 75 yards, and took a knee to end the game. Coulda had more than 28, but we ended the game instead.

We had no punts in the 4th quarter and two huge drives. Only one resulted in points, but the other was just as important to the outcome of the game.

Third quarter was to see what the defense was really made of. It seems that the offense have been putting up points in the first half and the defense have been giving it all back in the third qrter.

To see the defense hold the Texans to just two fgs throughout the entire 3rd qrter is DAMN well impressive. The best defending this game has done in 14 weeks. They did come to life last week. If the fg was made by Mare and the offense had gotten just one more td, last week's game would have been yours.

If this team continue to play the way they did today, you guys will have a lot of celebrating and boasting to do next season.