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Steve Smith takes Cam over Tebow anyday.


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First of all it means they are better passers, not QB's. And I'm sorry is there some rule that QB's can't be better passers than Peyton Manning or Brady in a particular season?

Like Peyton and Manning can't be beat? lol Even Delhomme was better than Brady as a QB in the freaking Super Bowl. They had the better kicker. We had the better QB.

Okay cool. So you agree that Cam is a better passer than Jake Delhomme was in 2003 right??

2003 Jake: 80.6

Cam: 81.1

So why aren't we competing for a Super Bowl like they did but instead are 4-9??

LOL

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What game did you watch? Newton had 3 passing TD's 0 INT's and 343yds of total offense.

still, The Golden Calf of Bristol's performance against them led to a win, his didn't.

hard to blame all of that on Cam though with the missed FG, the hold, etc. ah well.

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still, The Golden Calf of Bristol's performance against them led to a win, his didn't.

hard to blame all of that on Cam though with the missed FG, the hold, etc. ah well.

So football is an individual sport now?

We would be talking about "The Golden Calf of Bristol" losing to the Bears if his kicker wasn't able to hit a 51 and 59 yard FG, does The Golden Calf of Bristol kick FG's now?

Meanwhile, Cam got his kicker in position to win the game with a 36 yard kick and Mare sliced it.... see how that works?

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So football is an individual sport now?

Not at all, I don't think it makes much sense at all to credit a single player for a team's victories, nor blame that single player for their defeats. I also think it is far too simple to point to a game and go "OH YEAH! Well so and so got shut down!" because there is usually much more involved in that game than one player getting 'shut down.'

The Broncos are a much better team than we are... and The Golden Calf of Bristol's a huge part of why they are playing so well.

We would be talking about "The Golden Calf of Bristol" losing to the Bears if his kicker wasn't able to hit a 51 and 59 yard FG, does The Golden Calf of Bristol kick FG's now?

Meanwhile, Cam got his kicker in position to win the game with a 36 yard kick and Mare sliced it.... see how that works?

just to be clear, that FG kick wouldn't have won us the game.

as to Prater, I've said over and over how big an asset he is. Not sure how any of that matters? The Golden Calf of Bristol and Cam both had costly turnovers vs Detroit and both lost the game, it seems silly to point to as a game that is evidence of how much better Cam is than The Golden Calf of Bristol.

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Meanwhile, The Golden Calf of Bristol threw for 202 yards and scored 2 TD's with no INT's while completing 66% of his passes (15 attempts).

Boy, The Golden Calf of Bristol really showed Cam how it's done!

I'm not disputing that Cam had the better game but, let's be real for a second. The offense the Broncos run doesn't warrant a ton of passing. The Golden Calf of Bristol isn't responsible for the plays called.

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You know what makes The Golden Calf of Bristol a great prospect for an Elite QB? It's that he's figured what makes Tom Brady untouchable even by Manning.

These are Tom Brady's greatest records:

Most consecutive passes, None intercepted, season: 358

Tom Brady's Career interception percentage: 1 for 47 passes.

Tom Brady can safely play a 47 pass attempt football game and generally not worry about throwing more than 1 pick. There's just hardly an answer for that. How big is the difference between Brady and Peyton Manning? Manning is 1 per 36 career. Gigantic! This is one of the main reasons why one has 3 Super Bowl rings and the other doesn't. No one is close to Brady.

Please look at all other passing categories yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_records_%28individual%29

And then pay attention to Interceptions Thrown:

* Most passes intercepted, career: 336, Brett Favre, 1991–2010

* Most passes intercepted, season: 42, George Blanda, 1962

* Most passes intercepted, season, rookie: 28, Peyton Manning, 1998

* Most passes intercepted, game: 8, Jim Hardy, September 24, 1950

* Most consecutive passes, None intercepted, season: 358, Tom Brady, October 24, 2010-September 12, 2011[19]

* Most consecutive passes, None intercepted, rookie season: 169, Sam Bradford, 2010

* Most consecutive passes, None intercepted to start a career: 162, Tom Brady, 2000–2001

* Most attempts with no interceptions, game: 70 Drew Bledsoe November 13, 1994

* Most completions with no interceptions, game: 45 Drew Bledsoe November 13, 1994

* Most passing yards with no interceptions, game: 527, Warren Moon December 16, 1990

* Most touchdown passes with no interceptions, game: 7, Y.A. Tittle, October 28, 1962

* Most consecutive games, 2+ touchdown passes, no interceptions: 9, Tom Brady, 2010

* Most attempts with no interceptions, season: 127, Paul Justin 1996

* Most completions with no interceptions, season: 74, Paul Justin 1996

* Most passing yards with no interceptions, season: 888, Todd Collins 2007

* Most touchdown passes with no interceptions, season: 10, Steve Young 1987

* Most touchdown passes with no interceptions, career: 7, LaDainian Tomlinson 2001–present

* Most games with an interception, season: 15, Richard Todd, 1980

* Most games with 300 yards passing and no interceptions, career 27, Brett Favre 1991–2010

* Most games with 300 yards passing and no interceptions, season 8, Tom Brady 2007

* Most games with 400 yards passing and no interceptions, career 4, Peyton Manning 1998–2010

* Most games with 1+ touchdown pass and no interceptions, season 14, Tom Brady 2010

* Most games with 2 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season 11, Tom Brady 2010

* Most games with 3 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season 8, Tom Brady 2007

* Most games with 3 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career 36, Brett Favre 1991–2010

* Most games with 4 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season 5, Tom Brady 2007

* Most games with 4 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career 12, Tom Brady 2000–2010, Brett Favre 1991–2010

* Most games with 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, season 3, Tom Brady 2007

* Most games with 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career 4, Tom Brady 2000–2010, Peyton Manning 1998–2010

* Most games with 6 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career 2, Tom Brady 2000–2010, Peyton Manning 1998–2010

* Most games with 20 completions and no interceptions, career 65, Brett Favre 1991–2010

* Most games with 20 completions and no interceptions, season 10, Tom Brady 2007

* Most games with 30 completions and no interceptions, career 10, Tom Brady 2000–2011

* Most games with 30 completions and no interceptions, season 5, Tom Brady 2007

* Most games with 30 pass attempts and no interceptions, career 61, Brett Favre 1991–2010

* Most games with 30 pass attempts and no interceptions, season 8, Peyton Manning 2006 2010, Marc Bulger 2006, Tom Brady 2003, Drew Bledsoe 2002

* Most games with 40 pass attempts and no interceptions, career 15, Brett Favre 1991–2010, Drew Bledsoe 1993–2006

* Most games with 40 pass attempts and no interceptions, season 6, by 6 players, most recently; Peyton Manning 2010

* Most games with 50 pass attempts and no interceptions, career 3, Tom Brady 2000–2010

* Most games with 50 pass attempts and no interceptions, season 2, Jeff Garcia 2002

There is NO quarterback that dominates any passing category like Tom Brady dominates this one. This is what gives you 3 Super Bowl rings and this is what made the Patriots Perfect.

This is what Brady knows and cares about. This is what made the Perfect Patriots Perfect. Notice the 2007 year in there. This is the secret to being an elite quarterback. This is what makes The Golden Calf of Bristol win. If Cam wants to be an elite quarterback like Brady, this is the category he needs to pay attention to.

PS: The Golden Calf of Bristol plays Brady this week. If The Golden Calf of Bristol outplays Brady, the poo will hit the fan. I hope Brady wins for consistency's sake and I hope Tom Brady continues to show why experience matters. I couldn't take a bunch of idiots crediting The Golden Calf of Bristol with what Brady has proven over his entire career. But if he does beat them, he deserves credit for this one win.

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Not at all, I don't think it makes much sense at all to credit a single player for a team's victories, nor blame that single player for their defeats. I also think it is far too simple to point to a game and go "OH YEAH! Well so and so got shut down!" because there is usually much more involved in that game than one player getting 'shut down.'

The Broncos are a much better team than we are... and The Golden Calf of Bristol's a huge part of why they are playing so well.

just to be clear, that FG kick wouldn't have won us the game.

as to Prater, I've said over and over how big an asset he is. Not sure how any of that matters? The Golden Calf of Bristol and Cam both had costly turnovers vs Detroit and both lost the game, it seems silly to point to as a game that is evidence of how much better Cam is than The Golden Calf of Bristol.

Okay, so Cam put Mare in position to tie the game and it's his failing as a QB that cost us those 3 points as well as the easy 7 our defense gave up on the Falcons next drive?

You are right, it's silly to credit any one player (including The Golden Calf of Bristol) with a win.

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So forget about the 14 points he gave us, plus the easy 3 he put Mare into position to score, plus the 7 our defense gave up on the first play of the next drive.

The Golden Calf of Bristol led his team to more points and a great win.

Cam did not.

Single game comparisons is shitty as can be. The whole The Golden Calf of Bristol/Cam debate is shitty but as long as there are insecure Cam fans, the debate will continue.

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I'm not even sure you can accurately compare the two in a fair way outside of QB mechanics.

The offenses these two teams run are completely different. These guys are being asked to do different things. While I believe Cam to be the more complete player, The Golden Calf of Bristol does what he's asked to do. Nothing wrong with that.

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The Golden Calf of Bristol led his team to more points and a great win.

Cam did not.

Single game comparisons is pooty as can be. The whole The Golden Calf of Bristol/Cam debate is pooty but as long as there are insecure Cam fans, the debate will continue.

I'm not insecure at all, I think comparing The Golden Calf of Bristol to Cam is ridiculous... Cam even as a rookie is a FAR superior QB.

BTW, I notice how Cam is knocked for getting wins against backup QB's - but nobody holds that against The Golden Calf of Bristol, right?

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