Steve Smith takes Cam over Tebow anyday.

[bauss]

So you wanna know what would the guy with 100% 4th quarter comeback success rate can do for a team that's 1 for 9 in 4th quarter comebacks?

Maybe not 13-3 but 10-4?

If you're purporting that with The Golden Calf of Bristol the panthers would consistently string up 20 to 30+ points a game to even have a chance at a 4th quarter comeback pretty much sums up your inability to see what's going on.

[CRA]

Stats generally don't lie. Just that some people don't understand them or what they are talking about because they admittedly rush and make consistent errors.

They are also the ones that constantly tell you they are smarter than you yet have below average reading comprehension and don't understand basic math. Let alone logic.

I would agree that generally they don't lie.....but stats will flat out lie to you at times.

[SCP]

So you wanna know what would the guy with 100% 4th quarter comeback success rate can do for a team that's 1 for 9 in 4th quarter comebacks?

Maybe not 13-3 but 10-4?

Seriously? Did Cam not drive our team down for a tie and victory just to have our sh*tty kicker miss the FGs. The Golden Calf of Bristol had a kicker that made a 50+ yarder to get to OT and a fumble that gift warpped a FG. But that doesn't matter, right?

I want to know what you think Tim would do on the Panthers this season, in the exact same sitiuations as Cam? FG kicker and all.

[teeray]

The Golden Calf of Bristol: 83.9 QB rating. #14 in the league

Newton: 81.1 QB rating #19 in the league

With this logic in mind, in 2008 Chad Pennington was the second best QB in the NFL and last year Joe Flacco, Josh Freeman, and Matt Cassell were all better QBs that Peyton Manning.

[Showtime]

If you're purporting that with The Golden Calf of Bristol on the panthers would consistently string up 20 to 30+ points a game to even have a chance at a 4th quarter comeback pretty much sums up your inability to see what's going on.

Because I'm sure working with the 3rd best receiving corps in the NFL would be so much worse for The Golden Calf of Bristol than having the 31st in the NFL. No dude it's yours. Cause you fugers NEVER LOOK poo UP. You just TALK! I'm sure it would bother The Golden Calf of Bristol so much to have 1500 yards after catch tacked on to his stats.

Cam: 3573 15 554 13

The Golden Calf of Bristol: 1290 11 517 3

Total yards: 4127 28TD's

Total yards: 1807 14 TD's

Cam Newton Passing TD efficiency = 238.2

The Golden Calf of Bristol Passing TD efficiency = 117.3

Cam Newton's Total scoring efficiency = 147.4

The Golden Calf of Bristol Total scoring efficiency= 129.1

Lower is better. The Golden Calf of Bristol's passing TD efficiency and overall scoring TD efficiency(rushing included) is also better.

His scoring efficiency is better than Cam Newton's. And interception efficiency is #1 in the league.

So yeah, The Golden Calf of Bristol could in fact put up 30 points per game with the Panthers. After all if he can put up 38 points with Denver's receivers why couldn't he do it with Steve Smith, Olsen and Stewart?

[Showtime]

With this logic in mind, in 2008 Chad Pennington was the second best QB in the NFL and last year Joe Flacco, Josh Freeman, and Matt Cassell were all better QBs that Peyton Manning.

First of all it means they are better passers, not QB's. And I'm sorry is there some rule that QB's can't be better passers than Peyton Manning or Brady in a particular season?

Like Peyton and Manning can't be beat? lol Even Delhomme was better than Brady as a QB in the freaking Super Bowl. They had the better kicker. We had the better QB.

[bauss]

Because I'm sure working with the 3rd best receiving corps in the NFL would be so much worse for The Golden Calf of Bristol than having the 31st in the NFL. No dude it's yours. Cause you fugers NEVER LOOK poo UP. You just TALK! I'm sure it would bother The Golden Calf of Bristol so much to have 1500 yards after catch tacked on to his stats.

Cam: 3573 15 554 13

The Golden Calf of Bristol: 1290 11 517 3

Total yards: 4127 28TD's

Total yards: 1807 14 TD's

Cam Newton Passing TD efficiency = 238.2

The Golden Calf of Bristol Passing TD efficiency = 117.3

Cam Newton's Total scoring efficiency = 147.4

The Golden Calf of Bristol Total scoring efficiency= 129.1

Lower is better. The Golden Calf of Bristol's passing TD efficiency and overall scoring TD efficiency(rushing included) is also better.

His scoring efficiency is better than Cam Newton's. And interception efficiency is #1 in the league.

So yeah, The Golden Calf of Bristol could in fact put up 30 points per game with the Panthers. After all if he can put up 38 points with Denver's receivers why couldn't he do it with Steve Smith, Olsen and Stewart?

Again, nobody gives a poo about efficiency because there's way too many variables to account for; like ST and Defense. And trying to wrap it up in a blanket statement to assess a QB is ridiculous and not seeing the big picture.

Carolina leads the league in scoring drives beyond 80 yards. That leads me to believe something isn't happening on the other side of the ball and pretty much invalidates this YPP scrotum you swing from.

[Wyank]

:Yawn:

[Showtime]

Seriously? Did Cam not drive our team down for a tie and victory just to have our sh*tty kicker miss the FGs. The Golden Calf of Bristol had a kicker that made a 50+ yarder to get to OT and a fumble that gift warpped a FG. But that doesn't matter, right?

I want to know what you think Tim would do on the Panthers this season, in the exact same sitiuations as Cam? FG kicker and all.

Did cam not get 3 tries to score before our shitty kicker missed the FG?

The Golden Calf of Bristol also had 4 77, 80 and 85 yard drive marches for a TD and win.

The Golden Calf of Bristol's also come back from 15 points in less than 4 minutes, converted a 2 point conversion and still had OT to go.

I already told you. We could easily be 10-4 right now. The Golden Calf of Bristol has 2 interceptions and has a 1 per 99 interception efficiency ratio. He's been the best 4th quarter comeback QB this year.

It's the 2 biggest problems we have. So The Golden Calf of Bristol would fix our 2 biggest problems that's keeping us from winning and would "magically" improve our defense just like he did Denver's when he took over(not throwing picks helps with points allowed).

[Showtime]

Again, nobody gives a poo about efficiency because there's way too many variables to account for; like ST and Defense. And trying to wrap it up in a blanket statement to assess a QB is ridiculous and not seeing the big picture.

Carolina leads the league in scoring drives beyond 80 yards. That leads me to believe something isn't happening on the other side of the ball and pretty much invalidates this YPP scrotum you swing from.

Everybody in the NFL gives a poo about efficiency except Cam Newton fans because efficiency = winning and we lose because we're inefficient.

In fact what the fug do you think a QB rating is? It's no different than yards per point for your QB.

Touchdowns, yards, interceptions and attempts.....that's the same thing when you put them together.

You're right nobody cares about efficiency except the entire NFL! Some people just look at it in pieces and compare vacuum stats accross the board. That's what fugs it up. Not when you combine them. It's when you break them down and compare them.

Like yards vs yards. Retarded. Means nothing.

[AceMan]

If only we had The Golden Calf of Bristol at QB!

Damn that E.Brown trade!!!

[rayzor]

YPP scrotum you swing from.

:lol:

[klumme]

PFFL: Stop living on messageboards and looking at boxscores and start watching some fuging games.

[Showtime]

PFFL: Stop living on messageboards and looking at boxscores and start watching some fuging games.

I watch the games and look at stats. You should stop relying on just your eyes. They're wrong. And they'd be more fun to watch if we were winning.

Stop caring about stupid poo and start caring about winning. Look into the things that have something to do with winning.